New Red Devils - Amphilophus Labiatus

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What a little stunner. Look at that domer he's growing too.
Awesome update. Thanks.
Blimey he's come along way in a short space of time
I know right. I'm amazed too with his progress. He's reaching around 5-6" in length now, while the other less dominant Red Devil's around 4-5". Thanks guys.
 

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if that's a male everything in that tank is doomed lolololol

Corys and Acaras stand no chance against even a small male labiatus
Haha, yes Frank, as I found out the hard way... Surprisingly, not with one of the Corys or Acaras, but with a bright pink Blood Parrot that I was temporarily housing for my girlfriend - he was looking perfectly healthy and continued to eat fine for the first couple of days, but then on this one occasion I visited the tank to see a rather beaten up parrot lying in one of the pots :mad:

My initial plan was to move them into their own separate 100/120G tank, but most of the aggression is towards the smaller less dominant Devil which makes me worry that the move wouldn't solve much. I've considered separating them into their own individual tanks, but that wouldn't be ideal for me and I was rather hoping a larger tank with less of a community would solve these issues. Any suggestions? I'm hoping to move them this weekend.
 

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I would put them in there own individual tanks and try get some females to pair with them or you could try a heavily stocked all male amphilophus tank not my personal cup of tea but it is the best way to keep them in a community.
 
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Haha, yes Frank, as I found out the hard way... Surprisingly, not with one of the Corys or Acaras, but with a bright pink Blood Parrot that I was temporarily housing for my girlfriend - he was looking perfectly healthy and continued to eat fine for the first couple of days, but then on this one occasion I visited the tank to see a rather beaten up parrot lying in one of the pots :mad:

My initial plan was to move them into their own separate 100/120G tank, but most of the aggression is towards the smaller less dominant Devil which makes me worry that the move wouldn't solve much. I've considered separating them into their own individual tanks, but that wouldn't be ideal for me and I was rather hoping a larger tank with less of a community would solve these issues. Any suggestions? I'm hoping to move them this weekend.
When it comes to male Amphilophus, your best bet if you're not gonna house him alone or with other equally brutal monsters, is put him in with a female much larger than himself - if you can find a female twice his size, you're in good shape. He is the one that must be moved or he will keep killing - that's what male Amphilophus do..........don't try pairing him w/ a smaller or equal sized female, think big - big girls
 

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Update -

Unfortunately, due to lack of space and territorial problems, I had to get rid of the smaller, more pale Devil. The bigger guy still looks amazing though and after some changes, he's looking more beautiful and colourful then ever. Most likely reaching the 7-8" mark now.

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I've had a few pairs of Red Devils and currently have a juvenile Red Devil that I've been trying to get to bang my female Texas.

They're dicks. All of mine that I've had would not tolerate tank mates after about 4" long. The juvenile I have now is getting donated because I picked up a beautiful Red Texas last week.
 

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Update -

I had to separate him due to his aggression, so he's now solo. Here's a few more recent pictures.

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This is my 9" Labiatus...

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Lip size doesn't play into it with correctly identifying this species... its the general proportions and shape of the mouth.

Heres an illustration I did quite a while ago....

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Looking at the specimen you have I'm thinking its closer to Citrinellus ;)
 

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This is my 9" Labiatus...

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Lip size doesn't play into it with correctly identifying this species... its the general proportions and shape of the mouth.

Heres an illustration I did quite a while ago....

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Looking at the specimen you have I'm thinking its closer to Citrinellus ;)
Thanks for you're input. I ordered this fish through my LFS so it could well be. Great illustration and thanks for sharing. Hopefully it will help others to identify.
 
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