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I don't believe you. LOL Whats up bro? BUMP! Tank has been up and established for years and housed some big fish. Holds water just fine!

I know ;-) folks just get excited and don't read the entire thread.

Right, but the OP was saying it had vertical bars when it was stressed. The fish in question is believed to be a hybrid with possibly amphilophus(lending to the facial structure), and OP was curious with what other vieja it may be crossed with.

Ah, maybe. I'll try to snap a pic of my male Hartwegi with his vertical bars for comparison.

I have these: 2 oscars 3 vieja hartwegi 1 black belt 1 Jaguar 1 Chancho 12 plecos (various species) 1 Amarillo 6 convicts(not including babies) 5 dovii (growouts) 2 TSN 1 Raphael cat 1 vulture cat 2 eclipse cats 1 red tail x tsn 9 clown loaches

There is one pic that the caudal fin looks like Hartwegi, and that would also speak for the vertical bars when angry. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I537 using MonsterAquariaNetwork App

I would assume it's a hybrid but the mouth is at a strange angle that seems like it's mixed with something thats not even in the vieja family...almost even amphilophus like

Interested in Irwini. Texted. :-)

Dang that was actually the one I was interested in. Lol I'll take her if your sale falls through.

Lone Wolf, are any of these fish still available?

Awesome! keep me posted! Thanks Troy!

Bump. How about any mature male from the 7" mark that I can grow out a bit? Thanks

Looks very nice

I use Rubbermaid Brute trashcans with my fish. No problems whatsoever. They're good to go.

What's up bro?! Yeah Trimacs are beast! I just picked up some dovii fry from Gani, so they will be my next grow out monster! Sorry for the thread jack :-) Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I537 using MonsterAquariaNetwork App

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I think it's difficult to say. I really like the Amphilophus group as well as Parachromis and Paratheraps/Vieja groups. So I guess if I had to I'd say: ●Trimac ●Amarillo ●Chancho ●Dovii ●Managuense ●Breidohri ●Maculicauda ●Festae I'm sure the...

I just read your comment on another post about vultures in cohabitation with rays. I have zero experience with rays but I can say that vultures do some damage when they bite. I have a 17" TSN and my vulture bit his cheek...twice and cleanly removed a significant portion of lip and face. The TSN...

I have a 13-14"(TL) vulture I have grown out since about 5" . Absolutely great catfish. They are much more active than a bullhead or anything like that and they do stay pretty thin, but not unhealthy thin. Mine will eat krill, tilapia, and massivore. My vulture does sometimes get spooked and...

I know it's probably a shot in the dark but I'm looking for a male BB for my female. My female is 11" and has a bad attitude so I'm looking for a male that's at least 11" and hopefully more. I'm in SoCal, 92570 and willing to pick up from LA, OC or SD. Let me know what you've got or if you've...