Flowerhorn Sexing Please pass on the knowledge!!

nycom2011

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I see this question come up time and time again..most are basicly concerned of either breeding purposes or head hump (since its generally linked to head hump size.) Most would agree that its hard or impossible to tell at sizes below 3/4 inches because their sexual organs arent mature yet for both femal and male..

This is my attempt to shed some light on the issue by listing a few things i have come across in the endless search for sexing your flowerhorn..this should also put away the questions on " will my flowerhorn develop a hump!!"

The list as follows by time line and I am speaking in general so that you can use it as a checklist and the more checks you get the more likely it is one or the other (assuming its not stunt in growth at all):



1) First 8 weeks of fry life- There are no methods to sexing but complete speculation by observing the head size relative to the entire patch..fries that have larger hump are more likely to be male.

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2) 8 weeks to 20weeks of life-

Females are more likely to have a dorsal (back/top fin) marking on fin. (this is not a rule but a again in general/ statistically speaking..it isnt a rule because there are males that can also have this marking but its less likely that it would be a male with a dorsal fin marking.)

Into the later weeks I would say 10+ weeks you can use a method called venting.. while some may have innovative ways of doing it ..i feel that a method where you gentally push/ massage the abdomen so that the gentals pop outward should do the trick..

Males- the thing that sticks out near where they poop/gential papille V shape
Females- the thing that sticks out near where they poop/ gential papille U shape

Males have higher fins both dorsally (on the top/ back of the fish) and caudally (belly/front of the fish) ...reason i said back and front is because for humans beings dorsal is on your back and caudal is in your front its easier to understand this way i feel.

Generally--(this part isnt that helpful) males have more color, are bulkier, and have a more defined jaw shape.

Females (at about 20 weeks will start to lay eyes on flat surfaces and so if that happens and you were still pondering about sex this last fact should let you know without much effort at all..hahah:ROFL:)


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Reasons why sexxing your loved FH has become such a daunting task..
as the hybrid craze is constantly evolving with new mixes of many or pure specimens we are seeing a larger variation of phenotypical fishes that arrive at your lfs or online purchases. Some of these fishes dotn follow the general rules (ex. some females have large humps, some patches that were selected for many pearl and flowerline markings might exhibit dorsal fin marking even as a male sex, some mixes with parrot fish will have bulky bodies depending on strain..etc)

while there are methods of sexing most are observational ..and other then the method of venting all are just educated guesses based on experience however if you do a check list/ or jsut wait and do a venting which is easier and less invasive as it sounds you would save yourself the vague answers you many times get as replies....


I realyl hope this was helpful and for any mistakes or corrections please post a reply. Thank you and all information that was presented here was a result of comments from fellow MFK members and web browsing.. Again i am only human so ill make mistakes too..

Goodluck all hope you get what you are looking for ...:headbang2:headbang2:headbang2
 

pbj88

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I am not understanding. If you look at the picture I uploaded. It looks like a V and like, I think from what I see up close. ls this a female or male? Can you elaborate. I am new to this.

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Ihsnshaik

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I am not understanding. If you look at the picture I uploaded. It looks like a V and like, I think from what I see up close. ls this a female or male? Can you elaborate. I am new to this.

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TO be honest all of them look V but where it differentiates is the thickness of it so becomes U. That looks female it looks like tube extended and you can clearly see the area where the eggs supposed to come out from. I have plenty of females with same vent.

I used to just think dorsal spot and how they look but I had my share of high end females that look like males.
 

pbj88

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Strange I post the same photo elsewhere(flowerhornrus) and experts/administrators or people with more experience say it is male. They see to be just as sure as you. Very confusing
 

fisheatfish

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From my years in breeding them, I will say it is a definite male.

Hard to see from the frontal shot but the tube appears flattened, which is indicative of a male. Females are more rounded and thicker...creating a more U shape.

Do you have another flowerhorn (male or female)? Put them together and let nature take its course.
 

Ihsnshaik

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Here's an example of my female unfaded red Texas tube. It's a bowfront so looks odd at this angle lol

That looks exactly like what he posted

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