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    Cichla kelberi, Taxonomic Description

    I've seen a few posts regarding the eventual size of C. kelberi. I thought this might shed some light on the subject (as well as make your eyes bleed )

    Ichthyological Exploration of Freshwaters, Volume 17, Number 4, December 2006

    A Review of the South American cichlid geneus Cichla, with descriptions on nine new species

    Sven O. Kullander and Efrem J. G. Ferreira

    Morphometry of Cichla kelberi

    SL (mm) Min 48.1 Max 275.5 Mean 212.0 HT 275.5
    Of 52 specimens collected, the largest was 272.5 mm (10.725 inches) with the average being 212.0 mm (8.26 inches)

    Now that's not to say there aren't larger kelberi out there but based on the taxonomic description adult females max out at about 9".

    For what it is worth, here is the original taxanomic description. Note the stated size of adult females and males.

    Cichla kelberi, new species

    (Figs. 28-32)


    MZUSP 92397, 276 mm SL; Brazil:

    Pará: Tucurui; 1987, P. Formagio.


    52 specimens, 16.0-263 mm SL. Brazil:

    Rio Araguaia drainage: MZUSP 3855; 3,

    150-195 mm SL; Mato Grosso: Rio das Mortes;

    1950, Expedição Butantan. – MZUSP 50602, 2;

    Goiás: Lago Rico, near Cocalinho; Mar 1976,

    EMGOPA. – NRM 18023, 1, 246 mm SL; Mato
    Grosso: Rio das Mortes, cachoeira under bridge
    of MT-130 road; 20 Oct 1989, S. O. Kullander et
    al. Rio Tocantins drainage: Pará: MZUSP 38410,
    34 (4 measured, 251-263 mm SL); Tucurui; 1987,
    P. Formagio. – MZUSP 46067, 1; Tucurui, Igarapé
    Muru; 12 Sep 1970, EPA. – MZUSP 50594, 1; Baião,
    Igarapé do Limão, Rio Tocantins; 9 Sep 1970, EPA.
    – MZUSP 50599, 6; Cametá, Igarapé Aricura; 7
    Sep 1970, EPA. – MZUSP 50601, 4, 16.0-48.4 mm SL;
    Igarapé do Grilo, Rio Tocantins, Pindobazinho;
    3 Sep 1970, EPA. – MZUSP 50620, 1; Utinga,
    Belém; no date, no collector.

    Non-types, all translocations. Brazil: Rio Doce drainage:

    Minas Gerais: MZUSP 28964, 2; Lagoa Jacaré, Rio

    Doce; 29 Jun - 17 Jul 1983, J. R. Verani. – MZUSP 36654,

    1; Lago Carioca, Vale do Rio Doce; Nov 1985, J. R. Verani.

    – MZUSP 36676, 2; Lago Dom Helvécio, Vale do Rio
    Doce; 27 Nov-13 Dec 1985, J. R. Verani. – MZUSP 36686, 1;
    Dom Helvécio, Rio Doce; no date, R. Haddad Rezek. Rio
    Paraíba drainage: Rio de Janeiro: MNRJ uncat., 18;
    Resende, Represa do Funil; 7-9 May 1982, G. W. Nunan.
    – MNRJ uncat., 1; Rio Muriaé 20 km downstream of
    Itaperuna, mun. Itaperuna; Aug 1989, no collector. Drainage?:
    Ceará: MZUSP 3268, 2; Açude Pau Cerrado; no
    date, A. Marques. Paraguay: Rio Paraná drainage: Alto
    Paraná: NRM 41915, 1, 30.1 mm SL; Rio Limoy, Reserva
    de Limoy; 2 Mar 1998, S. O. Kullander et al. – NRM
    42401, 1, 60.0 mm SL; Rio Limoy, Reserva Limoy de
    Itaipú; 1 Mar 1998, S. O. Kullander et al.


    Distinguished from all other species

    of Cichla by presence in adults of small light spots

    on pelvic and anal fins, and lower lobe of caudal

    fin. Similar to C. monoculus and C. pleiozona in

    possession of three dark vertical bars on side,

    presence of a pronounced occipital bar in large
    specimens, absence of black or ocellated markings
    laterally on head, and presence of irregular dark
    blotches on anterior abdominal side. Distinguished
    from C. pleiozona by less scales in a lateral
    row (76-83 vs. 84-93 in C. pleiozona) and
    typical absence of bar 4.


    Refer to Figs. 28-32 for general shape

    and colour pattern, Table 16 for morphometrics,

    and Tables 2-10 for meristics.

    Adults relatively deep (depth 31.7-33.7 % SL,

    N = 6, 246-276 mm SL). Predorsal contour straight,

    smoothly arched anterior to dorsal fin, large males
    with indicated (MZUSP 38410) to pronounced (in
    holotype) nuchal elevation. Maxilla reaching to
    below middle of orbit. Lower jaw prognathous,
    articulation below posterior margin of orbit.
    Lateral line discontinuous on both sides in all
    Dorsal spines 3-6 or 4-6 longest; soft dorsal
    fin rounded, not quite reaching to caudal fin base;
    in large males subacuminate, reaching to or
    slightly beyond caudal fin base. Soft anal fin
    rounded, reaching beyond middle of caudal peduncle;
    in large males subacuminate, to caudal
    fin base. Caudal fin rounded, upper corner angled,
    lower corner rounded. Pectoral fin pointed, fourth
    ray longest, reaching halfway to end of anal fin
    base. Pelvic fin subacuminate, first or second ray
    longest, reaching halfway to beginning of soft
    anal fin base or middle of anal fin base.
    Spinous dorsal fin naked, soft dorsal fin
    densely scaled except for posteriormost and distal
    portion, up to four rows of scales basally and
    one row on each side along with each ray. Anal
    fin densely scaled except distally, with two or
    three rows of scales associated with each ray.
    Caudal fin densely scaled, scales covering almost
    all of fin except posterior margin and middle
    interradial membrane. Pelvic fin densely scaled
    anteriorly on both medial and lateral side. Pectoral
    fin scaled or naked basally.
    Juveniles (Figs. 28-29) elongate, scales absent
    on fins in the smallest. Caudal fin markedly

    Colouration in preservative.

    Juveniles ca 17 mm

    SL (Fig. 28) with brown blotch anteriorly on side,

    indistinct pigmentation representing second

    blotch, and third blotch barely distinguishable

    from succeeding brown band which ends with

    slightly more intense small spot at base of caudal
    fin. Fins hyaline.
    Juvenile 48 mm SL (Fig. 29) with indistinct
    greyish vertical bar across anterior side, below
    lateral line and below posterior part of spinous
    dorsal fin, both bars with dark brown blotch at
    middle. Similar bar and blotch below anterior soft
    portion, but blotch connected to narrow dark
    brown horizontal stripe running on lower lateral
    line to dark blotch at middle of caudal fin base.
    Fins hyaline except for faint dark stripe across
    soft dorsal fin. Caudal base blotch dark brown,
    lanceolate, becoming narrower and fainter caudad
    to posterior margin of caudal fin.
    Young male, and young unsexed specimens,
    150-195 mm SL (Fig. 31), overall brownish with
    dark brown markings. Extrascapular marking
    distinct, consisting of dark proximal and distal
    blotches. Three dark vertical bars on side (bars
    1-3), dorsally slightly separated from dorsal fin
    base, becoming gradually narrower ventrally,
    extending for

    } of side. Dark spot on many scales

    on back form short irregular rows of spots in

    larger specimens; in 150 mm SL specimen entire

    dorsum to level of upper lateral line, including

    caudal peduncle marbled with dark brown spots

    and lighter ground colour. Vertical bar on caudal
    peduncle absent. Small dark spots scattered on
    side only in 189 mm SL specimen; two larger
    specimens with irregular dark, light-margined
    spots behind pectoral fin base caudad to bar 3.
    Dorsal fin spinous portion dark, soft part with
    more or less distinct light spots distally. Anal fin
    with 3-4 rows of light spots distally; obsolete in
    150 mm SL specimen. Up to five vertical rows of
    hyaline spots present posterodorsally on caudal
    fin. Caudal blotch round or slightly irregular,
    with complete or nearly complete light margin.
    Pelvic fin with a few light spots in 195 mm SL
    In adult female 246 mm SL (NRM 18023)
    dorsum and dorsal margin of caudal peduncle
    dark greyish brown, nape and snout grey. Side
    light brown, abdomen, chest and ventral aspect
    of caudal peduncle yellowish white. Side of head
    brown, light or dark spots absent. Black spot
    marking region of proximal extrascapular. Four
    black vertical bars (bars 1-4); anterior below anterior
    half of spinous dorsal fin, second below
    posterior third of spinous dorsal fin, third below
    soft dorsal fin, fourth anteriorly on caudal peduncle.
    Bars wider dorsally, but about uniform in
    width across side; bars 1-2 extend to level of
    lower pectoral fin base, bar 3 slightly shorter,
    bar 4 to little below lower lateral line.
    Small black spot on medial side of pectoral
    fin base and on adjacent side. Side, but not dorsum,
    with numerous scattered, partly confluent,
    small brownish spots; posterior to bar 2, including
    caudal peduncle, also many scattered small silvery
    spots. Spinous portion of dorsal fin black.
    Soft dorsal fin brown, light spots cannot be traced.
    Anal fin brown, soft portion distally grey with
    successively more obvious light spots distally on
    soft portion, three cross rows of hyaline spots
    distally on soft portion. Caudal blotch black,
    round, with almost complete silvery ring with
    short interruption dorsally and ventrally. Caudal
    fin brown, paler ventrally, and with indistinct
    pattern of alternating dark and light vertical bars
    posteriorly on dorsal lobe. Pelvic fin laterally
    brown with about four cross rows of white spots
    and lighter margin; medial side grey with some
    light spots visible from opposite side.
    Large males (Fig. 32) light brown, caudal
    peduncle, abdomen and head ventrally whitish.
    Snout and occiput dark brown. Postorbital dark
    markings absent. Black occipital bar extending
    from above gill cover obliquely anteriad across
    nape. Dark brown vertical bars 1-2 below spinous
    dorsal fin ventrally to about level of pectoral fin
    base, bar 3 below anterior half of soft dorsal fin
    ventrally to slightly below lower lateral line. Dark
    brown blotch anterior to pectoral fin base. Several
    dark irregular blotches on abdominal side
    under adpressed pectoral fin. Scattered small dark
    spots between bars 1 and 2, and dorsally between
    bars 2 and 3. Dorsal surface of caudal peduncle
    dark brown. Spinous dorsal fin black, soft part
    brown with indistinct light spots on three posterior
    interradial membranes. Anal fin greyish
    brown with indistinct light spots on five posterior
    interradial membranes. Caudal fin brownish
    basally, otherwise greyish. Caudal blotch black,
    ringed with silvery or light spots. Pelvic fin greyish
    brown, lighter posteriorly. In 276 mm SL
    specimen (holotype, Fig. 32), anal fin with silvery
    white spots on inner of scaled portion, and all
    of naked posterior membranes; lower lobe of
    caudal fin with about six irregular vertical rows
    of silvery white spots; lateral aspect of pelvic fin
    with silvery white spots on two anterior membranes
    and long stripes of same colour on posterior
    membranes. MZUSP 38410 specimens generally
    not well preserved, and details of the pigment
    pattern on fins cannot be unambiguously determined.

    Live colouration. Photographs show breeding

    males with yellow or golden side, greenish head

    without black spot, white chest, abdomen and

    ventral aspect of caudal fin base, but side duskied

    close to anal fin base. Vertical bars black. Yellow
    colour of side interspersed with numerous small
    black spots dorsally. Spinous dorsal fin black,
    with only few light spots. Soft dorsal fin, anal fin,
    and lateral aspect of pelvic fin grey to blackish
    with scattered contrasting white or yellow spots.
    Caudal fin ocellus with white to yellow ring.
    Several light spots on proximal half of caudal fin.
    Large, partially confluent black spots with white
    or yellow margin on abdominal side between
    pectoral fin and middle vertical bar. Nuchal hump
    prominent, dark grey.
    Breeding female NRM 18023 yellowish to
    golden on side yellowish on cheek and gill cover,
    with pattern as preserved specimen. Lower jaw,
    chest, abdomen and ventral side of caudal peduncle
    white. Branchiostegal membrane orange.
    Light spots posterodorsally on side, light ring of
    caudal ocellus and spots on anal fin yellow. Light
    spots on pelvic fin white.
    Other large adults, without nuchal hump,
    greyish to olive on side, lower part of head, abdomen
    and ventral margin of caudal peduncle white;
    greyish on side next to anal fin base. Orange stripe
    from angle of mouth to lower part of subopercle,
    and often indistinct pale orange along abdominal
    side. Spots on fins white. Anal fin and lower lobe
    of caudal fin maroon.


    Named for Dieter Kelber, in recognition

    of his promotion of Cichla as sport fishes, and

    for supporting our study with information and

    images of the tucunaré amarela (C. kelberi) and

    tucunaré azul (C. piquiti).

    Geographical distribution

    . Rio Araguaia drainage

    and the lower Rio Tocantins drainage (Fig.

    23). Introduced in reservoirs in Rio Grande do

    Norte, Minas Gerais and Ceará (Chellappa et al.,

    2003, as C. monoculus; Fontenele, 1948, as C. ocellaris),

    in the Rio Paraíba do Sul (State of Rio de
    Janeiro), and the Rio Paraná.
    Kelber (1999) listed Tucunaré amarela from
    the Itaipu, Porto Primavera, Jupiá, Três Irmãos,
    Ilha Solteira, São Simão, Porto Colômbia, Volta
    Grande, Jaguara, Estreito, Promissão, Igaratá and
    Paraibuna dams in the Brazilian Paraná basin, the
    Funil and Ribeirão das Lajes dams in the Rio
    Paraíba do Sul drainage, the Xingó dam in the
    Rio São Francisco drainage, the Pacoti-Riachão
    dam near Fortaleza in Ceará, the Serra da Mesa
    dam in the Rio Tocantins drainage. The Tucunaré
    amarela corresponds to C. kelberi according to
    photographs provided by D. Kelber.

    Local names.

    Tucunaré amarela (São Paulo,

    Brazil; Kelber, 1999), Tucunaré comum (Northeast

    of Brazil; Fontenele, 1948).


    Cichla kelberi has long been confused with

    C. monoculus

    (e.g., Fontenele, 1958, as C. ocellaris),

    which it resembles in shape and general colour

    pattern. We have not found any diagnostic character

    other than the light-spotted pelvic, anal and

    caudal fins, to separate the two species, but since

    this character state is unique in the genus, we are
    confident about species distinctness. The lateral
    scale count is within the higher range of C. monoculus,
    and below the range of

    C. pleiozona.

    The type material of Cycla toucounarai is represented

    by two preserved specimens, MNHN

    A.9490, labelled simply as coming from the

    Amazone”, although the description (Castelnau,

    1855) also mentions

    le lac des Perles de la province

    de Goyaz, and the Rio Tocantins. They were

    referred to C. monoculus by Kullander (1986). Both

    specimens have characteristic blotches on the

    abdominal side posterior to the pectoral fin base.

    The larger syntype (Kullander, 1986: pl. 4 fig. 1)
    is a male with nuchal hump, the smaller specimen
    a female. The pigmentation of the smaller specimen
    is slightly faded on both sides, and it shows
    no traces of light spots on the pelvic, anal, or
    caudal fins. The larger specimen possesses a black
    occipital stripe, three prominent vertical bars
    dorsally on the side, and trace of a dark blotch
    dorsally at the root of the caudal peduncle. The
    pigmentation of the right side is significantly
    faded, but the dark pigmentation is relatively well
    preserved on the left side. The anal fin is brownish
    with indicated lighter patches distally on the
    scaled portion of the anterior five soft rays. The
    ventral half of the caudal fin is brownish with
    indistinct lighter mottling but without light distinct
    spots. The pelvic fin is brownish anteriorly
    with two lighter patches on anterior soft rays. The
    caudal spot is ringed with a prominent silvery
    ring in both specimens.
    Castelnaus description and drawing disagree
    with the preserved syntypes. The drawing shows
    a specimen without occipital bar, and without
    dark blotches on abdominal side, but with three
    distinct vertical bars below the dorsal fin and one
    anteriorly on the caudal peduncle, and some red
    spots on the anal fin. The description apparently
    partly refers to the drawing, but the total length
    agrees with the larger syntype. Both syntypes
    have D. XVI.17, the drawing shows XV.18, Castelnau
    gives XV.17. He counts A. II.11, we count
    A. III.11. The pectoral fin count, 14 is in agreement.
    We count approximately 79 (larger syntype) and
    71 (smaller syntype) scales along the midline, but
    many scales are lost, and a through-going perforation
    likely caused by an arrow or spear through
    the larger syntype perforates the E1 row; Castelnau
    gives the range 72-75.
    In the description, Castelnau says that lanale
    est piquetée de rouge et de noir, i.e., the anal fin
    is spotted with red and black. This is significant
    because C. kelberi is diagnosed particularly by its
    anal fin colouration. One of us re-examined the
    existing syntypes with special emphasis on the
    possible presence of spots on the pelvic and anal
    fins, which were not mentioned by Kullander
    (1986). Whereas the pigmentation on these fins is
    indeed not uniform, we cannot recognize light
    spots of the kind displayed by some freshly preserved
    adults of C. kelberi although the silvery
    caudal blotch ring is well preserved in the syntypes.
    Close to imperceptible light mottling of the
    otherwise brownish scaled portions of the pelvic,
    anal, and caudal fins does not permit ambiguous
    identification as homologous with light spots in
    fresh specimens of C. kelberi, and is at least
    partly referable to lost scales. The light anal fin
    patches are located anteriorly on the fin in the
    transition between the scaled portion and the
    scaleless margin, a condition which is different
    from fresh specimens in which the light spots are
    located on the posterior soft rays. Whereas the
    light mottling of the anal fin possibly can be correlated
    with the red spots described and figured
    by Castelnau, it does not match the white or yellow
    spots observed in fresh preserved specimens
    of C. kelberi, and is doubtfully distinct from uneven
    artifactual discolouration of fins in other old
    specimens of Cichla.
    Whereas the larger syntype has 79 scales in
    the E1 row, which is in the upper portion of the
    range of counts of C. monoculus and near the
    median of the slightly higher range of C. kelberi,
    the smaller syntype has 71 scales, which is far
    below counts observed in

    C. kelberi, and near

    modal for C. monoculus.

    Castelnau (1855) included material from several

    localities in his concept of C. toucounarai. He

    relates that he first saw this fish in the lac des

    Perles in Goiás, later it was found in the Tocantins,
    and finally in the Amazone. It is known locally
    everywhere as Toucounarai. The Chambioas
    of the Araguaia gave it the name of Kini-teray.
    Its flesh is very good, and it reaches sometimes
    double the size that we have indicated.[Translated
    from the French.]
    Castelnau (1855) expresses that he hesitates
    to describe C. toucounarai as a new species because
    it would be very close to C. monoculus, differing
    by the constant absence of spots from the abdomen,
    assured by observation of an immense
    quantityof individuals of C. toucounarai. It would
    be close also to C. flavomaculata but differing in
    the absence of yellow spots from the body and
    the colouration.
    Quite clearly, the description of C. toucounarai
    includes observations of

    Cichla from the Tocantins,

    Araguaia, and the rest of the Amazon. The syntypes

    seem to have been preserved from the

    later part of the expedition, from Western Amazonia.

    The sketch for the drawing may have been

    made in the Tocantins basin, or the colouring of
    the plate based on field notes from the Tocantins
    basin. We also suspect that Castelnau may be
    including C. piquiti in his concept of C. toucounarai.
    That species does not have dark blotches on the
    abdominal side and is quite common in the Tocantins
    Cichla kelberi

    frequently displays black blotches

    behind the pectoral fin base, like the syntypes

    of C. toucounarai, but in contrast with the drawing

    and description. The anal fin spots are white,

    yellow or silvery, not red. Species of Cichla frequently

    display some red colour on the anal fin,
    but not in the form of small spots.
    Even specimens of C. kelberi in a poor state of
    preservation may maintain light markings in the
    anal fin. Inasmuch as the syntypes of C. toucounarai
    do not display anal fin markings, and since
    the description is ambiguous and may refer to
    three or even more species, we continue to consider
    C. toucounarai

    a synonym of Cichla monoculus.

    To fix the name, we select the larger syntype

    of C. toucounarai as lectotype. It can be recognized

    by the morphological information above, and is

    figured by Kullander (1986: pl. 4 fig. 1).

    Are your eyes bleeding yet?? LOL
    C. kelberi "creme de la creme"

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    thanks scat.
    interesting read.
    but some part of me still tells me mono size...

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    Yes but bleeding in a very good way. Thanks for sharing this information. Some interesting discriptions and some little known information that I did not ever read before. SWEET!

    P.S I know you have more info. I spent the last two day's going through a lot of your conversations (post) on the other site... you know which one.
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    Interesting thanks for sharing..
    Quote Originally Posted by R1_Ridah;2204088;
    MONSTERS man.....just like Mcdonalds..."I'm lovin it" awesome group.
    Quote Originally Posted by High City Rida;2157279;
    Those are sic looking P's. Cichla pimpin at it's best!
    Quote Originally Posted by mjuniorc;2487010;

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    Quote Originally Posted by channarox;2519070;
    thanks scat.
    interesting read.
    but some part of me still tells me mono size...
    I don't know. I highly doubt a mono female would be mature and breeding at 9". I agree that kelberi might get a tad bigger than indicated but I think 14"-16" is a max.
    C. kelberi "creme de la creme"

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    Maybe just a freak of nature but this was 17"-18" when i sold it. Boy do i miss it toooo.
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    Here is the fish that was used as the holotype to describe C. kelberi

    C. kelberi "creme de la creme"

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    Quote Originally Posted by lewis23;2519524;
    Maybe just a freak of nature but this was 17"-18" when i sold it. Boy do i miss it toooo.
    Gorgeous fish. I've contemplated selling mine several times but always decide that I'd be kicking myself if I did so. Besides, I don't think anyone would pay what I wanted... LOL

    Why did you sell yours?
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    Someone gave me what i wanted and i was looking into black rays. So it seamed like a good idea at the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lewis23;2519853;
    Someone gave me what i wanted and i was looking into black rays. So it seamed like a good idea at the time.
    I wouldn't have sold mine if I had it. I would have just threw the Ray in with them or just go grab another tank. But that's me.
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