How to care for gar properly? im new to them.

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im getting 2 alligator tommorow. 16" male .12" female
what should i expect. how and what do i feed them. tips and pointer please on owning one of these i know 300 gallons is small for these guys but i will deal with that when they get bigger. and can they room with a 14" oscar whos not mean. and a 10" red toger mota?
i hear xanders the man on this let me know.
 

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as said so eloquently by richard(the real man on this)...

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Alligator Gar-~24" in the first year, growth rates usually slow down at 36". in most home aquariums, this fish is usually stunted, only hitting a 3'-4' range. although 5'-6' is very possible given sufficient facilities. Very much stouter when compared to Lepisosteus Species. this is not an average home aquarium fish.
This a a bit generalized and has issues attached...
Really it is not common for a Gator to reach 24 inches in the first year in wild populations. (Described properly by Solomon as growing season) 15 to 18 is. In captivity this can be skewed a bit and a well feed fish kept in tropical like conditions can exceed what would be a normal growth pattern. They can however, be kept properly and have a correct weight and length curve that matches the fishes usual wild model... With proper husbandry...
THESE ARE TEMPERATE FISH... Not Tropical...

It should be noted that "stunting" is very common in all fish and it is not just the Gator that gets stunted in captive (or even wild) conditions. All Gars exhibit this and you really should note it for all of them.. It is also not necessarily a bad thing for the fish. It may very well still mature and may very well have a similar reproductive output as a non-stunted individual. There exists a point where it is really bad but if this is the case you will or would have killed the fish already...

Fish frequently respond to overcrowding and lack of food by reducing growth.. Environment is everything in general... Your not going to get a huge Gator (or any gar) raising it out of captive conditions unless you got the fish that way right from the wild... Growth is variable depending on living environment offered to the animal. There is no rule on what it should be or what is the right growth and what is the wrong growth... This is highly variable. First year of the life of the fish is critical and in this year you set it's survival or demise and most other aspects of it's later life. This seriously needs to be understood about these fish...

One really can not pigeon hole Max growth into a neat little category. It just can not be done without taking into consideration multiple variables and understanding how those variables act upon the fish.

IMHO NO gar species is the average aquarium fish and their proper husbandry is very much something most hobbyists really do not want to deal with or they really do not have the resources and facilities to properly keep them during critical periods, but this view I seem to hold only.

IMO these fish (All species) are NOT community fish and their average proper husbandry is a lot more complex than what is regularly given on these forums.

A lot is being learned about these fish these days due to more dedicated work with them. Really in the Past few years more information has been published and made known than at any other time in the 150 million years plus that these fish have existed.. They are very much a Work in progress..

We are not ready to assign stereotypical traits to these fish quite yet
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oscars are not advisable tankmates for gars. rtm is another name for jd right? if so then no, they're poor tankmates too. what are the dimentions on that 300gal? depending on that, i'm thinking you might have to upgrade a lot earlier than you think. other aspects of keeping gar can be easily found if you did some reading on the forums, but feel free to post if u have some more specific quesions.
regarding the male/female gars...
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E_americanus;3890960; said:
nice-looking gars, congrats. there is no way the owner would know if they were male or female unless they spawned for him/her, and that is extremely unlikely. just make sure this shop owner isn't charging you extra because they are calling them "a pair"...this is extremely unlikely.
--solomon
 
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