Flowers..... I thought they are fast growing-----

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I am confused, when i was getting my flower 1-1/2 years ago, i got a male because i have heard, get ready they get 40" + like tigers. So i thought get a male, they dont get as big..

i got my flower in January '10 at 6.5" he is 10" now. i have heard from shadow (DON) AND FISHDOG (MIKE) that there seem to be growing slow. i have a leo that is about the same age that has outgrown him, heck i think my hystrix are outgrowing him.

what gives??? Mine eats everything thrown in the tank...

I would expect to see some growing of the claspers cause he has to be over 2 years old...but nothing.
 
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FishDog said:
I wish, these things are the slowest growing rays I own. Gonna have to up their food intake to twice a day. I got them about 1 1/2 years ago at barely 6" and I bet they are barely over 7" now.
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ShadowStryder said:
I know the feeling, my new black pups born this winter are already approaching my females size and she is the appx age of yours. Although my female is pushing 8- 9"
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I seem to have the same problem...my hystrix only grows 2-3 inches in the last year and a half, he eats everything under the sun, I feed him 1-2 times a day. He's been with 3 sets of black pups and they all have outgrew him LOL..

Maybe it's the smelt :) hahah LMAOL

Stan
 
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flamenco-t said:
I seem to have the same problem...my hystrix only grows 2-3 inches in the last year and a half, he eats everything under the sun, I feed him 1-2 times a day. He's been with 3 sets of black pups and they all have outgrew him LOL..

Maybe it's the smelt :) hahah LMAOL

Stan
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maybe hystrix and flowers have the same growth rate...LOL
if this is true, i want to get a whole bouquet of flowers!!


My flower eats, pellets (mostly), smelt, shrimp, and occasional worms.
 
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Send me some black rays and I will send you some flowers LOL! Do you have the same problem as Don and I where they just stay thin all the time. It seems if you skip one feeding they are too skinny even if you just stuffed them full the day before. I am gonna switch to isolating them and feeding them twice a day. Must be a super high metabolism yet a super slow growth rate.
 
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My largest henlei used to do that...I can get him stuffed with a hump on his back one day and he'll show a tiny bones in 2 days.

I just kept on doing it for a few months straight (feeding 1-2 times a day) and after about 3-4 months, his "fatness" stays longer. We went out of town for a week, and I didn't tell the house sitter to feed at all and he never shows any pelvoc bone after a week of no feeding..

The only thing I can come up with, is high metabolism in one part since he's the most active ray in the 600 gal. The powerfeeding that I did for a few months was to build up his fat storage..he was about 15" at that time, he's now close to 17"

stan
 
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How often is everyone feeding?

I'd like to see if growthrates are the same with a Flower kept in a species tank and a constant non stop supply of live food....

Maybe they're used to a main staple in the wild that we don't supply. Maybe that compromise results in them eating to maintain rather then grow?
 
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I feed daily.. micht skip a day now and then... He is with 3 hystrix, so i know he is not getting out competed.... My flower is nutz over food!!

But i try to not ever power feed, i see no need in getting them to grow at abnormal speeds, besides i don't have a 750 gallon tank....yet.

What makes me think is maybe there is different variations like marbles (big ones and small ones) and/or motoros...etc...
I have seen no doubt some big ones, darrin and Edotero has some near 27-28"


http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?299146-MALE-FLOWER-VS-FEMALE-FLOWER-GROWTH
 
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Once daily? Twice daily?

Might be just like Armatus.... Those with endless supplies of live food grew over twice the rate that others grew.... Don't see there being a large and small variant there. I think the Marble variant arguement has a lil more behind it, as there's several of us with several specimens and years of observations that support it.
 
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