naw dude i got a firemoth that hangs with my dovii and devils because of the stuff. i bought him injected from a friend, and the thing is developing a serious nuchal hump. he has some serious color as well and always seems to be in spawning mode. he is pushing a good 8" now and has bred with my female festae and killed my big red tiger mota. he is definitely thick. you can see muscles bulging from his caudal and pectoral areas. youd swear it was a flower horn but nope. just an average everyday firemouth pumped on loads of testosterone. mean azz fish. ...jk...haha