Questionable Piranha Tank-mates

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Plecostomus (Common)
One of the most common seen fish with piranhas from juveniles right up to adults. These are often successful due to the following:

-Grows to good large sizes. 12 inches being common.
-Their body is bulky, protected and heavily armoured. Often too hard for a stray bite to penetrate.
-They are fairly inactive. Hence they do not draw much attention to themselves.
-They will often hold their ground and normally defend themselves. Often using their heads as battering-rams, and their tails as whips.
-Commons are easy to come by and fairly cheap to replace if mishaps do occur down the line. Most people hand large plecos back to the LFS once they outgrow their tank.

They are often seen as algae patrol and a ditcher for aggression. The common pleco keeps the bottom of the tank in movement while the piranhas patrol above.


Tetras (Small and Fast)
These are more common in large adult piranha (especially Serrasalmus species) tanks. And are successful because:

-Their small size means large piranhas will not bother giving chase for something so small.
-Their constant darting speed also means piranhas will not give chase.
-Being shoaling fish means there are plenty of eyes and sensors to track the piranhas.
-Tetras are very common, and very cheap, hence easily replaced if they are occasionally picked off in small numbers from the shoal.

Their fast movements with bright colours often add attraction to the piranha tank. While their small size makes piranhas look much bigger and more ‘king’ like. They serve as an added attraction, ditcher (to be chased), and help pick up small food pieces from the mess piranhas make while eating.


Pacu
They have been seen to work with Pygocentrus species tanks on occasions. This sometimes works out to be successful because:

-In the wild both pacu and piranha shoal together while young.
-Pacus look very much alike Pygo Piranhas, and are very good at imitating their behaviour to fit in.
-When attacked pacus do not swim in the opposite direction with their back end to the piranha (preferred form of attack for piranhas). Instead they defend themselves head on.

Always worth a shot at trying, however for the space a pacu takes up, it is normally preferred to just purchase more piranhas for the shoal.


Oscars
They have been seen not to only exist with Pygocentrus species but lead the attack on any food the shoal would be interested in. They can work out to be successful because:

-They are very aggressive fish with a bold character.
-Oscars never run away from attacks but face them head on in a full charge.
-In the wild Oscars have been seen defending and fending off shoals of attacking piranhas.
-Oscars are relatively cheap and grow fast, so can easily be replaced if mishaps occur.

Although they may survive with piranhas, they will rarely become part of the shoal.


Peacock Bass
They are one of the lesser experimented with fish, but I have seen the cohabitation with my own eyes. They are sometimes successful because:

-Pbass are again a very aggressive and bold fish that is used-to a structure and hierarchy.
-They are fast when they need to be, very strong swimmers and very aggressive swimmers.
-And has an equally aggressive feeding habit, chasing down food.
- In fact Pbass used to be put into water-holes in South America where piranhas were, to attack or eat the piranhas so farmers’ cattle would be safe when drinking.

However Peacock bass are arguably too expensive and too pretty to be sacrificed in such experiments where there is no certainty.


Invertebrates (Snails & Shrimps)
If all else fails, snails and shrimp are often helpful in cleaning the tank as they are cheating the ‘tank mate game’. This is because:

-The small size means they are barely noticeable.
-The effort to eat one does not gain the piranha much as they are hardly a worth while meal.
-Snails will obviously combat algae while shrimp will tackle the uneaten food particles.

Being that inverts are so cheap and easy to come by, even if a few go missing due to aggressive piranhas looking for a kill, it just means you have offered an alternative food source.
 
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Again I have reposted this thread due to corrections and additions. It is a very controversial topic, where members of the piranha community will always be split. However what can be agreed on is this, ‘never get attached to any fish you put in with your piranhas, consider it as a possible meal in the future as nothing is a certainty’.

I hope this comes in useful for people curious about what can be kept with their piranhas. Obviously there are many more possibilities that could be added, however I have kept to the main and more successful ones. Recommendations, comments and feedback would be really appreciated.
 
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I have keep Striped raphel catfish with my RBPs they only come out a night though and stay in hiding all day long. Keep em in there just as cleaner fish.
 

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I have heard of success with the raphael catfish as well Bderick67 though i don’t have any knowledge of them. Do they have the same body armour as the plecos do?
 

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well, just about piranhas mates, look at what happened to this young nat when I had to put my caribas in the same tank. she continues to refuse being dead and I believe that tomorrow she will have more energy yet..

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I dont really agree with the pleco stuff, but...
Only thing i've seen kept with p's successfully is a load of mollys and they keep repopulating so even when one goes missing there are loads and loads and are variable in colours, which is quite nice. The smallest of the commons grow just over 12" and they arent as common as they used to be, most grow 2ft ish. Not the best algae eaters and they need food like prawn (meaty) etc, and i can just imagine them trying to compete with a few p's for that... They are actually quite active, even more so at night. They are amoured catfish, but not as armoured as something like pseudo's and the reason someone isn't going to put that expensive catfish in the tank with p's is because it won't last. Of course i realise there are a lot of species of piranha, and so differs in personality, but in general imho unless you intend for the fish to be maybe slightly longer lasting more expensive feeders, i would never put a fish i like. Hell, sometimes its lucky enough they don't eat each other lol
 

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nice info.

all of them are worth a shot .(if you want a tankmate or food for your piranha)
 

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Joshy;638960; said:
I have heard of success with the raphael catfish as well Bderick67 though i don’t have any knowledge of them. Do they have the same body armour as the plecos do?
seems their body armor is even a little tougher than the plecos, The biggest atvantage thet have is they will not come out of hiding when the lights are on.
 

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how about buck toothed tertas?
 

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BIGgourami;681378; said:
how about buck toothed tertas?
Indeed, I realised I missed the exo’s out a while ago. They kind of fall into the category of the tetras for their size and speed. But also with the Pbass and Oscars for their aggression.
 
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