Something is wrong with my red tail!

[Aw3s0m3]

A: and I let it aerate all day this time because last time I only did it for about an hour.
TBTB: I don't follow this. Maybe I am not reading it right... When you pour your water in your bath container, it gets fully aerated (unless you start off with water totally lacking oxygen... but even then, most usually as you pour it in and it gets in contact with air and is vigorously stirred, it gets fully aerated). It cannot be aerated any more. I'd just keep a nice strong bubbler in it DURING the bath so oxygen concentration does not decrease.

I just siphoned the water in so it didn't get much air mixture cuz the end of the tube was under the water. Last time the fish completely spazzed out and I thought it was going to die so I thought there wasn't enough oxygen in there so this time I let it sit all day with an airstone in it instead of just an hour like last time.




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[thebiggerthebetter]

What is the water source that you draw for the bath?

[Aw3s0m3]

I take half of the water for the bath from the main tank and the rest is fresh new water so about 3 1/2g of both.

Looking at the catfish this morning, it actually looks like the wounds are healing so I think I'll do one more bath tomorrow, then a water change since on the melafix, it states to medicate the fish for 7 days, then do a water change and if the fish still continue to look sick, to continue medicating. Since the catfish appears to be healing, should I stop with the melafix or should I continue doing it until he is completely healed?

[thebiggerthebetter]

A: I take half of the water for the bath from the main tank and the rest is fresh new water so about 3 1/2g of both.
TBTB: Sounds like it should be fully aerated... but who knows. Maybe it was better safe than sorry. But if I had to guess, I'd think it almost died from the high dose of PraziPro. If not mistaken, it should come as a solution/suspension in some kind of organic solvent that mixes with water, like an alcohol or a glycol because praziquantel itself does not dissolve in water and it is not easy to even suspend it in water. So, not only you added a lot of med, you also added a lot of that solvent with it, actually likely 100-1000 times more of it in quantity than the med itself. The solvent also has a dose, including a lethal one. Everything can be a toxin and poison - it's just a matter of the dose... as the common wisdom goes. If a human drinks 5 gallons of water, it will kill him/her.

A: Looking at the catfish this morning, it actually looks like the wounds are healing so I think I'll do one more bath tomorrow, then a water change since on the melafix, it states to medicate the fish for 7 days, then do a water change and if the fish still continue to look sick, to continue medicating. Since the catfish appears to be healing, should I stop with the melafix or should I continue doing it until he is completely healed?
TBTB: I'd follow the instructions on the bottle. If the instructions don't state otherwise, I'd continue treating until fully healed and then perhaps for another week after. Melafix, when applied properly, is a very mild and actually natural anticeptic (an extract from a plant). It is very safe and hard to overdose too.

[theyangman]

Holy crap. 3 hobs and a canister cant be doing the job needed for a tank that size and the mess these kind of fish make. You say you do water changes weekly but when was the last tine you cleaned your filters?

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[probassfisher010]

but I only feed them once every 2 or 3 days because they never eat the next day and sometimes the next 2 days after eating

This should be a red flag for you... Healthy rtcs should want to eat all day long... Bichirs and cks aren't light eaters either... Something's wrong...are you just assuming your water params or have you tested before and after wcs?




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[Owain4]

I have doubted the water parameters are fine since i saw this thread. A 12" (or more) RTC and a almost 12" tsn in a 150G thats a huge bioload.

[Squirtle919]

that has to be the most nastiest thing I have seen on a fish :O. I hope he gets better.

150G is a 5x2x2 no? I ask because the fish look much bigger in the other post ?

[thebiggerthebetter]

Aw3s0m3, any updates? It's been 5 days.

[Aw3s0m3]

His wounds appear to be healing, but unfortunately he stopped eating again :/. I've been doing 20% water changes twice a week and giving daily doses of a melafix. He's still active so I just need to figure out a way to get him eating again.


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