Planning my 240g upgrade..

The 2 fx5's should be plenty. I would use a dorso type overflow and put the heaters in the actual overflow like you mentioned. I had to reply the setup your talking about is to similar to mine not to. LOL take a look at the 250 gallon build thread in my sig. I have mine setup this way and a year later the only thing i have changed was the length of the hose and adding a couple of 90 degree elbows to eliminate air bubbles

What is the purpose of using overflows if you are using FX5's? I had a drilled tanks and switched to canisters so I didn't have to deal with the plumbing. In my opinion there is no point in using a cainster filter with overflows unless you are using a sump tank to.

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Mudfrog said:

I miscalculated the water volume. It's actually a 225g tank. The purpose of the canisters and overflows would be for the silent operation and I already have canisters. The overflows would allow me to use something else later if I decide to do so. I would entertain the idea of using a wet dry if I could find one that truly was quiet, my wet dry that I made was very loud.

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Was it the wet/dry or the overflows that was the problem? If all goes well I'm hoping to be in the same perdicament that you are in, hoping to upgrade my 125 in the fall and not sure I can justify the cost of a 180 which will only net 4" increase over my 125 after installing a 3d bg. Any how I've been looking at sumps, wet/dry, and overflows since I never had one and it seems that if its an overflow issue a herbie or beananimal overflow should fix the problem.

I run dual Herbies on my 300 and its totally silent. Moving about 2400 gph and cost a lot less than 2 FX5's to build. Sock changes take about 2 minutes every week and that's it.

My refrigerator is louder than my sump lol.


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Mudfrog said:

It was the water going in to the wet dry that was loud. I was using a Pondmaster 2400gph pump and it moved so much water that it was a constant loud water movement sound going in to my drip tray. I'm sure part of it was my design but I could hear it 15 feet away over the TV.

I'm unfamiliar with a "Herbie". Care to elaborate?

This was my cheaply done 29g wet / dry for my tank. You can see where the water just pours in to the drip tray, this is where it was loud.

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Yeah I had a sump like that awhile ago and it sounded like a hot tub in my dining room lol.

A Herbie setup accomplishes 2 main objectives. Added safety and no sound from water. Basically instead of running one drain, you run 2 each able to handle the full flow of the tank by them selves. That way if the main drain gets plugged with food, fish, debris etc, the backup drain will take over to handle the entire tank flow.

Mine is detailed in my sig for my 300, but basically you keep the standpipe in the overflow high to minimize falling water noise and the inlet into the sump low to minimize hot-tubbing ( pulling air in the drain line). A gate valve on the drain line dials the water level in so that the standpipe is fully submerged. If no air enters the main drain line you are running at full siphon and the only other place water can make a sound is splashing into the sump. Simply extend the drain line below the water level in the sump and viola.... Silence.

Wet drys by design are pretty noisey but sumps can be pretty stealth if setup right. I move around 2400gph silently in the main living area of my house.


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