nitrate creep.. you guys should read this

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so i do religious water changes on my tanks, as i know all of you do too. and i know if your like me you dont usually test your nitrates, and when you do say a 30% water change you feel pretty good about your water quality.. but i found that over time your nitrates can "creep" up even with weekly religious water changes. im not going to go in depth with math but when you do say a 30% water change and if your tap water has 0 nitrate it effectively cuts your nitrates by ~1/3.. if your like me you have a set amount of food you feed each day, which means a set amount of waste each week, producing a set amount of weekly nitrates. say your tank accumulates 30 ppm of nitrates per week and u do a 30% weekly water change.

week 1: start 0ppm end 30ppm 30%wc puts you at 21ppm

week2: start 21ppm end 51ppm 30%wc puts you at 36ppm

week3: start 36ppm end 66ppm 30%wc puts you at 46ppm

as you can see it can slowly creep up on you even if you do large water changes up to 50% like i do. you need to go through a "reset" period doing daily water changes to get it back down. i guess the moral of the story is to use your test kits. my nitrates were at 60ppm after a 50% water change yesterday thats how i figured this out.


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Wow good details, I've read something similar on here a long time ago so I do 40% WCs every other day on all of my tanks, keeps em looking nicer and the fish healthier

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I've read about that awhile ago, which is why on my large tank I use pothos and normally perform 2 wc's a week.
 

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^ exactly, especially if you're growing out a bunch of fish, or adding new stock.
 

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good to know. My hats off to you guys for your dedication. I would have quit keeping tanks years ago if I had to change water. I only set up tanks with continuous drip systems now. Flooded my carpet too many times with siphons.
 

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There's an eventual maximum if the bio load and WC schedule are constant. In the example you mentioned the eventual max would be 100ppm dropping to 70ppm after WC. Obviously basic math is no replacement for at least occasional testing but on an established tank once one figures out the appropriate WC schedule for their needs the frequency of testing could be reduced for many keepers.


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This is relative to an extent but remember that dirty filters, dirty substrate and or decaying food/fish under decor for example can begin to Leach nitrates. Don't clean your filters for awhile and it will raise nitrates more significantly over time. These are a few examples

But if you keep up on maintenance then theoretically a 50% wc will come close to reducing 50% of the total nitrates!

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There's an eventual maximum if the bio load and WC schedule are constant. In the example you mentioned the eventual max would be 100ppm dropping to 70ppm after WC. Obviously basic math is no replacement for at least occasional testing but on an established tank once one figures out the appropriate WC schedule for their needs the frequency of testing could be reduced for many keepers.


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exactly. i didnt wanna bother going that far in depth but the higher the weekly percentage changed, the lower the eventual max ppm would be.


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