I have had this guy now for at least three years. His color has never been great and always kind of shy. I have tried him in a a lot of tanks and no big differences. Now that I am moving I had to rearrange tanks and he got down graded to a 55g with a mixed school of SDs and some polys. The fish has never been happier. He is eating more aggressively then ever and his color is great. Showing a really nice steel blue with some awesome red coming through. The pictures don't' depict as well as I would like but still not bad. Hard to tell size but probably 8 to 10 inches