Probably 8-9 inches, currently he's with a vieja mutt and a Texas mutt but he's lived with some brusiers from huge midevil, Butti, Managuense, Blackbelt, mutltiple convict pairs,Oscars, other jack Dempsey, pike cichlid, Firemouth, blood parrots and he's outlasted them allHe's cool. What size is he? And what are his tankmates?
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His back is somewhat crooked. And he's actually always been a mellow fishUsually old man JD develops a crooked back. His body still looks young. Getting 11 year out of him is a record. Mine lived 8 to 9 years maximum, and mellowed out a lot as they aged.