Thank you terror. I believe they are the first time from what I know. They are in neutral water at 81 degrees. I have them in a riparium layout with lots of emerged plants suckling up all nitrate. I think that coupled with the uv sterilizer is doing the trick.
I just added the uv last weekend and fed them crayfish and lots of guppies. I didn't expect them to breed.
They have pushed the sevs, the oscar, and the hoplarchus into one corner and are pretty aggressive.
Thanks!