Breeding Garra rufa

eldcarolino

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New to the forums. I have a 100 garra rufa in a 150 gallon tank with a 75 gallon sump/refugium with ATS. HAs anyone here tried to breed them? I couldn't even make them spawn. My water parameters are all perfect except for my nitrates 80-100ppm in which i can't seem to lower down. I already have ATS, plants and alot of pothos. Anyone here who has experienced breeding them?:)
 

Wailua Boy

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Hard to get any species of fish to breed with nitrates that high. I would focus on lowering them(water changes, increased filtration, chemically, etc.)
 

eldcarolino

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how do you lower the nitrates chemically? im skeptical when it comes to resins and adsorbents. I do water change everyday to almost 90% without burting my BB but my nitrates are still high. The lowest That I had was 40ppm the most. Then the day after it then goes back up to a 100ppm. Im so lost as to what to do. Increasing the aquarium size is not an option:nilly:
 

Wailua Boy

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It is surprising with sump filtration w/ATS and pothos that your nitrates would be that high. Maybe your test kit is off. How often do you feed and what kind of food?
 

eldcarolino

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had two master API test kits both had same result. Also used it in other tanks and shows lower nitrates. Tap water result is 0ppm nitrates. I feed them twice a day maybe about 5-10 pinches of PO2, algae wafers and serra flakes. (cycle) My bad but my tanks are not in gallons but rather liters. 225 liters combined
 

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In regards to the lowering Nitrates, I was recommended a filtration pad that you cut to size (of filter) and it literally the next day knocked my Nitrates to 0ppm. Did partial wc a week later checked my parameters a couple days later 0 amonia 0 nitrite 5 nitrates. So the pad difinatley made a difference. Worth a shot.


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Pomatomus

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I favor denitrification reactors to plants. They process a hell of a lot more nitrate and don't require any chemicals. Maybe a carbon source if your bioavailable DOC is insufficient to denitrify. What substrate are you using and how much of it?
 

eldcarolino

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What is DOC? I have a bare tank. No substrates whatsoever, so that the power head can filter out all the debris. Already have 5 layers of those nitrate pads on my DIY wet/dry trickle filter. They don't seem to work. They are only good with ammonia and nitrite. Im thinking of installing a DIY water changer. I bought heaps of pumice stones aka seachem "Matrix". They said it process dentrification. Im also thinking of making a k1 moving filter. xD
 

Pomatomus

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DOC is "dissolved organic compounds". Denitrifying bacteria live in anoxic parts of your tank, which is why reef keepers often have deep sand beds to keep their nitrates at 0. A denitrification reactor (could use seachem matrix) is a chamber with very low water flow that creates anoxic zones for the bacteria. If you had a few inches of substrate you probably wouldn't have nitrate issues as bad as you do. I keep substrate in all of my 10 tanks and only see nitrate in a couple of them.
 
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