Outbreak!!! HELP!!!

the lion who ate the sun

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Hey guys. I am having a cloudy eye epidemic in my 180g planted tank.

It houses:
10 Polypterus ranging from 6" to 15.5"
2 Florida gar 12" and 14.5"
2 tropical gar 10" and 11"
3 clown loaches 5.5"
1 Raphael catfish 5.5"

I am in the final stages of my 300g set up, and will be migrating 50% of the stock when it is finished.


So it started with my 15.5" congicus and large gar. A large piece of talapia got sucked into my canister, presumably when I was cleaning of the intake guard. I did not notice and my ammonia spiked to 2.0 before I caught it. I also added the two tropical gar at this time.

Params were previously, and are currently

0 nitrite
0 ammonia (or very close)
5-15 nitrate

I cleaned the filter, removed the talapia, and did a 70% water change. I continued doing daily 25% water changes for the next three days and the congicus looked better even though the big flgar looked worse off.

I picked up melafix and added the recommended dose for 5 days with absolutely no sign that it was letting up. Around day 3 the cloudy eye returned to my congicus, and was picked up by 4 other Polypterus in spite of the perfect params. It was also picked up by both tropical gar and my other Florida gar.

I still did a 25% water change every day during the first 5 days of melafix. Day 6 I repeated. Last night was day 7. I added salt (40% recommended dose) after the daily water change in addition to melafix and upped the temperature from 81f to 84.

My large ornate is scratching on rocks and a few of my Poly's are laying in strange places in uncomfortable looking positions.

I should note I have 15lp of airflow at the moment, and most of my fish breathe off of the surface anyway.

Could this be something besides cloudy eye? Pics incoming.
 

robert511

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Increase air flow remove carbon add salt 1 teaspoon per 5 gal and try prazipro it worked for me treat once wait 3 days do a 50 percent WC and treat again it should be gone safe for loches and catfish

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the lion who ate the sun

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Lighting is wonky on the congicus picture. He is a much darker brown and the cloud looks worse.
 

the lion who ate the sun

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Also, prazi is for parasites. Cloudy eye is bacterial. I have already done all of the things described in your post minus prazi.

Added 15lpm of air
Increased temp to 84
Added salt

Edit update::
Just noticed raphael cat is on its side and sputtering.
 

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salt and WCs take care of cloudy eye when it arises in my tank. My featherfin had it when I first got him, cleared right up. I'd try, if you have a spare tank, taking some of the worse subjects and treating them with methylene blue in the QT tank, if it helps continue to do it for all the fish.
 

the lion who ate the sun

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Could this be something other than cloudy eye? I have had 0 health issues in this tank until now.

I'm doing another water change this very second. I am going to discontinue salt and melafix for the time being.
 

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keep on the water changes. I couldn't honestly give you a diagnosis of what else this could be, but WC's are going to be your best bet right now. What are your water params at now?
 

the lion who ate the sun

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The smaller ornate is looking really bad. She is extremely finicky, so I rarely see her. Her eyes are clouded to the point of near blindness. She has white patches all along her side.

I'm shocked. I went from a single case of cloudy eye to potentially losing stock.

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