filtration help

savannah_az

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I'm aware of all the pros of a sump and as much as it would be nice, does anyone here go sump less on sw? Im wondering if a hob skimmer, a high gph closed loop and enough live rock would do the trick?
 

mudbuttjones

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I know alot of guys do on nano tanks. I dont see why it couldn't work on a large scale provided that you are ok with sarificing room in the display for equipment

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savannah_az

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I figured thats what it would come down is either look at the stuff or attempt to drill for an overflow
 

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I did two HOB on my first salt tank. One was mechanical and the other had a u.v built in. I had an intank skimmer and roughly 40 lbs of live rock on a 36. I liked the ability to use the compartment to hold phosphate reducers and some other things.


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savannah_az

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i thought about that too, i just know that live rock is supposed to be the best filtration(?) and i know a skimmer is is a given but I'm just torn, not just about the overflow but also live rock, i read to keep it not in the display but yet not in the sump, so where is truly the ideal place for that rock? In the tank with a closed loop and high flow over said rocks, or in a sump with a high turnover rate over the rock, or.......?
 

Riley S

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I don't know where you read that, but most people use rocks in their displays and aquascape them into pleasing structures. The rock also gives fish a place to hide. Going sumpless and using hang on equipment in a smaller tank is fine. The problem with doing that on a larger tank is after a certain size, a hang on equipment doesn't work as well as comparable in-sump equipment does. A protein skimmer is a good example of that.
 

savannah_az

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tbh I can't remember where I read it, but about 4 years ago I spent a god six months reading articles, forums, etc learning about salt water so it could have been anywhere. I just vaguely remember that removing live rock from the display (not all, but certainly not like a reef) would give more room for the fish to move around, and keeping live rock in the sump would trap detritus.
 
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