discussion about Bparrots from the What Cichlid boasts the best Fin's? thread

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Jason_S

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I actually think the discussion presented in the What Cichlid boasts the best Fin's? thread is worth pursuing but that thread should definitely stop being derailed by this discussion.

It was claimed that blood parrots are not hybrids but rather are mutations of A. labiatus. At one point it was claimed that blood parrots are simply "balloon labiatus" but I don't believe this for a second without any adequate proof. Look at balloon green terrors or balloon rams...they are the same in shape as their normal counterpart with the exception of being short bodied and round-bellied. Blood parrots not only have the shortened body and rounded belly but also expanded cheeks and a modified/deformed mouth that is not consistent with a "balloon variant".

I still fully believe they are hybrids. It was also mentioned at some point in that thread that flowerhorns may not have started as hybrids? yeah if that statement can be backed up I'd love to see the evidence because I'm not buying that one either.

I'd really like to see this turned into an intelligent discussion with shared proof from each side of the argument which is why I'm creating this thread. Also to hopefully deter anyone from further derailing the What Cichlid boasts the best Fin's? thread and posting further on the topic here.
 
I'm not going to weigh into this thread because it seems like all discussion that took place in that thread is "chinese whispers" rubbish from people who are not exactly familiar with the author of said speculation and claims - they also provide no proof when requested.

I do however believe this discussion belongs (rightfully) in the hybrid section.
 
I agree but also disagree....if there can be any proof provided that blood parrots are not hybrid but rather a mutated form of A. labiatus (as claimed) then it would actually belong here and not the hybrid forum. I personally don't believe that but by creating this thread I'm giving 'them' a chance to prove their statements.
 
Chrisplosion;4593471; said:
Anyone who know anything about parrots know they have synspilum in them.
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And fairy dust too.





This thread is going to end up going no where just because NO ONE KNOWS.

You can blow smoke all day but if you boil it down no one has any sort of solid proof whatsoever.
 
LOL modest man :)

Let me start off by saying that I have not owned a bp before but I have a friend that has kept them for a few years now and I do spent alot of time at his place talking fish ( only friend I have that enjoys talking fish IRL ) but any way , I do not have some fancy degree or anything but I do think that Blood parrots are Hybrids ... Like what was mentioned above when you look at balloon rams they are short bodied fish that have a rounded belly ... Now look at Blood Parrots They do appear to have a short body and it is true that I have seen Blood parrots that have some of the same colors that red devils have .. However with other short bodied fish their faces are not changed in such a way as the Blood parrot ... Once again I am only speculating here but the only way I can possibly come up with that Blood parrots are a short bodied red devil is that They are affected more by their short bodied gene than all the other fish .... That being said I guess it Might be true but it just seems very unlikely to me
 
Jason S, good call on making another thread for this. I think the derailing of the original thread was getting out of hand. While I did post a link to the author in question (Heiko Bleher) concerning his thoughts on Blood Parrots and Flowerhorns, I don't necessarily agree with him. I just added it to show what Glenbo was referring to. I've always been in the understanding that both FH and BP were hybrids. I still believe so. There may have been some mutations in the beginning in the trade of BP and FH, but I think that it is pretty clear that specific species are being bred and manipulated to provide the many different kinds of FH and BP. But I am no authority on either fish. I don't own any of them. I doubt if anyone could find concrete evidence supporting the thought that BP and FH are truly mutations and not hybrids. I hope this thread doesn't turn into a "Flame on!" thread. I think that it is interesting and educational.
 
Jason_S;4593410; said:
I actually think the discussion presented in the What Cichlid boasts the best Fin's? thread is worth pursuing but that thread should definitely stop being derailed by this discussion.
Also to hopefully deter anyone from further derailing the What Cichlid boasts the best Fin's? thread and posting further on the topic here.
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My Parrot got nice fins. That's what it was about. It was about fins.. Relax bro.. It's only a fish.. Only a fish...




Modest_Man;4593543; said:
And fairy dust too.





This thread is going to end up going no where just because NO ONE KNOWS.
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Youre right about that. It's simply a discriminating fish thread.. If NO ONE KNOWS then NO ONE KNOWS. If you dont know then what are you trying to prove here? Bunch of foos just dont know and piling ignorance in this thread?

I think they are inbreds for deformity since a long time ago and a breed was created. But whatever I never bred any either :ROFL:
 
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