Ebola round 2

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Yeah, but are the victims dead? And were they some of the top professionals in their countries?
Their credit score and a few movies are now dead. It's debatable if the victims are some of the top entertainment producers in the country. Sarcasm of course

You seriously find the Ebola story that fascinating? What ISIS and hackers are doing is far more a threat to your way of life and health then Ebola is to you right now.


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Let's see.... 5 preemies dead in California from Pseudomonas, and 7 elderly dead from Mycobacterium abscessus from cardiac and GI surgeries. That said, being alarmed at one thing doesn't preclude awareness or concern for other things, Eddy! The trip to Massachusetts went well, what I saw made me very comfortable -- I would be willing to work in their containment unit at Boston, and others who have been on 11+ site visits said they were the best prepared that they had seen, outside of Nebraska, Emory, and NIH of course. If you can, move there. ;)
(I guess this technically means I am a Time person of the year?)

A little bit more seriously, there is still a lot of work to be done in Western Africa to contain the ongoing outbreak. As long as it is going on, we can expect at least 3 persons of interest (someone with a fever from Western Africa) per month for as long as the outbreak is going on. Most of them will have either malaria or typhoid -- and I am glad to see that facilities are doing a better job of controlling patient information until the results are confirmed positive -- ie, there was a suspect patient that presented at Mass Gen Hosp the day after our team left (!!!) that turned out to have malaria.
 

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http://news.yahoo.com/sierra-leones-leading-doctor-dies-ebola-214133565.html

This is a great tragedy. No, I don't have a great fascination, nor a morbid curiosity about Ebola. As a former dental professional who took every advantage of personal protective equipment and who was well aware of disease transmission routes, I am sickened by the knowledge that so many health care workers have died from this disease. Kudos to all those who volunteer to go to West Africa to fight Ebola.

On another note, I had a capsulectomy procedure on my finger last month and now go in for hand therapy. Their new protocol involves a list of questions that are asked every time before a patient is seen. Not answering the questions = no therapy. The questions are of the order: "Have you traveled outside the US in the last 21 days?", "Have you had contact with anyone who has traveled abroad in the last 21 days?", "if so, which countries"......etc. So yes, Ebola has made an impact at a hand clinic in Medford, OR....the receptionist has to ask each patient a list of questions....and every time I go for therapy I am reminded about Ebola when I have to answer those questions.
 

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pay no mind to eddie

he can't stand to be around a hot topic that he isn't heavily involved in
The problem is the topic isn't even hot. The only person who's posting anything worth a dang is heather. The rest is fear porn

If only that Sierra Leon doctor was on this thread. He'd still be alive

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The problem is the topic isn't even hot. The only person who's posting anything worth a dang is heather. The rest is fear porn

If only that Sierra Leon doctor was on this thread. He'd still be alive

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Hello Eddie; Your posts the last few days have me scratching my head.

Even if the topic is not currently as "hot" as before, the thread is about Ebola. The Sony hack is a new item for the talking heads on the news and perhaps deserves a thread of it's own. If someone starts a new thread about the Sony hack I will read it and may participate.
Even if Ebola is not currently a headline item, it is still important to my way of thinking.

I do not follow how being on this thread would have helped a Sierra Leon doctor to survive? Perhaps you are trying to be ironic?

I also appreciate the contributions of heatherbeast. It is good to know that positive changes are being put into practice. I hope the posts continue.

I guess I am in the "fear porn" group. An interesting termonology by the way. I have learned to be afraid of things that can kill me so beg indulgence. I continue to be aware of the possibility of an Ebola infected person around most anyplace and take precautions. Good for other infectious diseases as well.

Being from southeast Kentucky I have witnessed a number of redneck fails.

What is the last thing a redneck might say? = Hey, watch this.

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Well previous poster brought up that "top professionals continue to get affected" and the article was about people in S.L. Was just putting two and two together. I thought we had established early on that people with constant exposure appear to be the only one getting affected. So I don't find it shocking at all that healthcare workers are getting sick.

Perhaps if they read this thread they'd be more fearful and in turn, careful. If people were giving theories on why people who know better are getting sick, we'd have a decent talking point which could lead to a discussion. instead it's redundant reporting of suspected cases and death tolls oversea.

The best thing that's happen in recent month was the government telling media to stop reporting suspected cases. It was completely out of control and just created fear, as we saw here. Ever since they stopped, this thread and the hysteria has slowed down.

So yeah I'm really curious if you guys are THAT interest in this topic when there's much fresher and interesting headlines out there. Even within this topic there's far more interesting discussions then reporting every sick person and death oversea.




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Spreading around extra fear did increase ebola preparedness, especially at big facilities.
If The Best hospitals know in advance that all protocols are scheduled for official scrutiny, of course inspectors will only see the greatest scenarios.
I doubt that those places are where the average Joe first walks in sick, so am a skeptic about 'most' places' preparedness; supplies + training via hundreds of dry-runs being so essential. Even a Top hospital without inspection warning is better than where most patients go.

As far as the Govt telling the media what to do, there are oppressive countries doing that. I want to choose turning channels, & follow news interests online to get a variety of info.
 

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Hello; I agree with petspoiler in that I do not want the media to be controled/repressed by the government. I want to know about such things as Ebola, faulty air bags, airplane sanitation, texting while driving and all.

I also feel the so called "hysteria" led to the authorities, goverment & health, to reconsider their practices. It remains to be seen in the lessons are truly learned. I hope things will be somewhat better.

There has been a long history of inertia in health care. As I understand it took many years for the practice of cleaning hands to become common among doctors. In my example a few posts back I cited some observations from a waiting room at a clinic in Lexington KY. Not every health care facility has examined their daily practices.
 
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