Agreed. Love the endless possibilities of hybrids. They bring a refreshing variation.
Are pure Rays a thing of the past?
- Thread starter Keister
- Start date
Hmmm it's really interesting to see all these different people opinions on the subject! Keep them coming in everyone! Great conversation going on in here between everyone!
Sent from my iPhone using MonsterAquariaNetwork app
Sent from my iPhone using MonsterAquariaNetwork app
I will always try to keep Pearls here if possible, but I am definitely a hybrid fan. Like previously stated, no 2 are the same.
The colors and patterns are endless.
All the really cool WC rays are going to Asia because they are willing to pay for them.
IMO, prices in the US are dropping because people are either unprepared or unwilling to keep pups for several months and to say ray breeding is good money is not true unless you have a large facility and alot of breeding goin on.
Sent from my SCH-I535 using MonsterAquariaNetwork App
The colors and patterns are endless.
All the really cool WC rays are going to Asia because they are willing to pay for them.
IMO, prices in the US are dropping because people are either unprepared or unwilling to keep pups for several months and to say ray breeding is good money is not true unless you have a large facility and alot of breeding goin on.
Sent from my SCH-I535 using MonsterAquariaNetwork App
Considering the resources it takes to breed rays its already a large investment and to make it any kind of profitable you need to be willing to flex on price to male space for the next litter. I hope prices keep dropping bit by bit due to all the breeding and hybrids out there.
My ideal set up would be a pair of Leos then multiple other females. That way I can keep one pure set but have hybrids with a little black blood in them to make them interesting. Its really hard to argue against the clean look of a classic Leo and I believe there will always be a market for them. Motoros and mm will continue to come in WC so there will always be that fresh blood of pure rays there as well
Sent from my QMV7B using MonsterAquariaNetwork App
My ideal set up would be a pair of Leos then multiple other females. That way I can keep one pure set but have hybrids with a little black blood in them to make them interesting. Its really hard to argue against the clean look of a classic Leo and I believe there will always be a market for them. Motoros and mm will continue to come in WC so there will always be that fresh blood of pure rays there as well
Sent from my QMV7B using MonsterAquariaNetwork App
Scott
Speaking of going to asia I am having a difficult time finding a flower and what I am being told is there are massive contracts to China right now so if there is anything left over its the low end unhealthy stock that typically don't make it past transport.
Sent from my QMV7B using MonsterAquariaNetwork App
Speaking of going to asia I am having a difficult time finding a flower and what I am being told is there are massive contracts to China right now so if there is anything left over its the low end unhealthy stock that typically don't make it past transport.
Sent from my QMV7B using MonsterAquariaNetwork App
I still get more people wanting pure leos then leohen hybrids
Sent from my iPhone using MonsterAquariaNetwork app
Sent from my iPhone using MonsterAquariaNetwork app
There are a lot of good points being raised by everyone!
I believe that the pure market and hybrid market will directly correlate as in when pures are high, hybrids will be low and when pures are low hybrids will be high.
Or the other option is everyone goes on the wild goose chase for the one off hybrids and pures fade into nothing and the market will be so diminished that they sky rocket in value when the demand comes for pure rays.
My only worry is that on this wild goose chase that even I intend on participating in that rays that aren't being imported anymore may disappear due to muddled blood lines. Like if people try to breed. Leo back out of a hybrid or try to breed a hystrix back out because then no matter what it will always have hybrid blood in it and it can never become a 100% pure ray.
This is certainly an interesting topic and I think that it will be interesting to see where the hobby goes in the future in regards to the demand for hybrids vs. pure rays. I will always be trying to breed some pure rays.
Sent from my iPhone using MonsterAquariaNetwork app
I believe that the pure market and hybrid market will directly correlate as in when pures are high, hybrids will be low and when pures are low hybrids will be high.
Or the other option is everyone goes on the wild goose chase for the one off hybrids and pures fade into nothing and the market will be so diminished that they sky rocket in value when the demand comes for pure rays.
My only worry is that on this wild goose chase that even I intend on participating in that rays that aren't being imported anymore may disappear due to muddled blood lines. Like if people try to breed. Leo back out of a hybrid or try to breed a hystrix back out because then no matter what it will always have hybrid blood in it and it can never become a 100% pure ray.
This is certainly an interesting topic and I think that it will be interesting to see where the hobby goes in the future in regards to the demand for hybrids vs. pure rays. I will always be trying to breed some pure rays.
Sent from my iPhone using MonsterAquariaNetwork app
Just be patient, flowers really to not come in until january february time frame. Go tiger, you can get them most of the time.
People say pure bloods are more expensive than hybrids
That maybe the case now as a lot of the hybrids have a high amount of brown rays in the mix be it pearl or motoro give it a few years to give breeders to ween out the brown gene a bit and some will be stunting
Rays in Asia are priced on what a Ray looks like not what it is
We will just have to see what happens within the next few years but which ever way it goes it's no big deal to me I keep what I like not what others say I should be keeping
As for breeding to make money it's just not worth the hassle I can't be bothered with dividers of extra tanks
If they breed they breed if they get damage so be it I just leave them to get on with it
Sent from my iPhone using MonsterAquariaNetwork app
That maybe the case now as a lot of the hybrids have a high amount of brown rays in the mix be it pearl or motoro give it a few years to give breeders to ween out the brown gene a bit and some will be stunting
Rays in Asia are priced on what a Ray looks like not what it is
We will just have to see what happens within the next few years but which ever way it goes it's no big deal to me I keep what I like not what others say I should be keeping
As for breeding to make money it's just not worth the hassle I can't be bothered with dividers of extra tanks
If they breed they breed if they get damage so be it I just leave them to get on with it
Sent from my iPhone using MonsterAquariaNetwork app
