Festae/Jag after tapeworm treatment

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Otherone

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In the last pic you can see the Male Festaes belly curved upward. When I 1st noticed the white stringy poop I dosed their food with prazi (API General Cure). Had the poop examined - tapeworm. After a few weeks they stopped eating and became dull in color - lethargic, then dosed the tank with praziquantel (2x doses in 48 hrs Jungle parasite tabs) - 3 days later a total of 11 days no food, all started eating small amounts of food w/ no signs of white poop. Week later all are back to their regular eating schedule. I am currently adding garlic to their diet as a follow up - Quite the scare. As you can see the Festae are back in happy Halloween mode - the Jag has always been pre-dominantly Black w/ gold & purple highlights - regional strain or sub adult colors - I just don't know? Please disregard the date stamp - new cam - didn't even know it had a date stamp :screwy:. THANK YOU MFK and That Fish Place for saving my fish!

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nice save,glad you didnt lose them the festae are awesome
 
wow close call...good work!

How did you treat them exactly (in a hospital tank or the main tank, dose, wc during treatment, etc)? I'm planning to use Jungle on some new w/c fish just as precaution...
 
peathenster;3684073; said:
wow close call...good work!

How did you treat them exactly (in a hospital tank or the main tank, dose, wc during treatment, etc)? I'm planning to use Jungle on some new w/c fish just as precaution...

Probably a good idea ............... I suspect that the recently deceased wild caught Gold Saum was the host but I can't varify. API General Cure has some Praziquantel so when I noticed the worm/poop I mixed up a batch in a spray bottle and sprayed the food. The M Festae was the only one with white stringy poop however by the time it shows eggs could be all over the tank and all fish infected - they all stopped eating - 2x festae, jag, salvini, firemouth. At that piont I noticed lumps on their fins, all of them..........probably egg sacks. I changed 50% of the water - added salt for the free swimmers, removed the carbon and media - thru it away as it could also contain eggs and followed the directions from the Jungle Parasite box. Dosed the main tank with all fish still in.The Jungle tabs contain a larger amount of Praziquantel. 48 hours later repeated the same; 50% water change, salt , prazi. 48 hours later 50% water change, salt, replaced new carbon and new media. Then went and got Garlic extract and started soaking their food. Internal parasites don't like garlic and it's a wonderful immune system booster. Also vaccumed the hell outta the bottom of the tank at each water change. Most of the above treatment was told to me by That Fish place then varified on the fish disease forum. The Garlic trick was 100% MFK'ers. Also would like to add that parasites can be in the digestive tract for a very long time before signs are visibale. Some of the signs I now know to look for - Infertility,
slowed growth rate, lack of appetite, eats like a hog yet has a sunken stomach, egg lumps on his fins and body, stringy poop - all of which I've eyewitnessed over the past several months with the Red Terror Male - he should be way bigger for his age. The others only had lumps then refused food probably because of the prazi lace. To ID the worm it has to be under a microscope, my LFS has several marine biologist who diagnosed the white poop as aquatic tapeworm. Right now my biggest concern is cross contamination - I have 12 tanks and close to 80 fish - worms could've been transfered thru the water changes via the python or the nets or by swapping media to cycle thru new tanks. I'll probably prazi the other 11 tanks shortly. Only draw back - makes the house smell fishy.
 
Otherone;3684271; said:
Probably a good idea ............... I suspect that the recently deceased wild caught Gold Saum was the host but I can't varify. API General Cure has some Praziquantel so when I noticed the worm/poop I mixed up a batch in a spray bottle and sprayed the food. The M Festae was the only one with white stringy poop however by the time it shows eggs could be all over the tank and all fish infected - they all stopped eating - 2x festae, jag, salvini, firemouth. At that piont I noticed lumps on their fins, all of them..........probably egg sacks. I changed 50% of the water - added salt for the free swimmers, removed the carbon and media - thru it away as it could also contain eggs and followed the directions from the Jungle Parasite box. Dosed the main tank with all fish still in.The Jungle tabs contain a larger amount of Praziquantel. 48 hours later repeated the same; 50% water change, salt , prazi. 48 hours later 50% water change, salt, replaced new carbon and new media. Then went and got Garlic extract and started soaking their food. Internal parasites don't like garlic and it's a wonderful immune system booster. Also vaccumed the hell outta the bottom of the tank at each water change. Most of the above treatment was told to me by That Fish place then varified on the fish disease forum. The Garlic trick was 100% MFK'ers. Also would like to add that parasites can be in the digestive tract for a very long time before signs are visibale. Some of the signs I now know to look for - Infertility,
slowed growth rate, lack of appetite, eats like a hog yet has a sunken stomach, egg lumps on his fins and body, stringy poop - all of which I've eyewitnessed over the past several months with the Red Terror Male - he should be way bigger for his age. The others only had lumps then refused food probably because of the prazi lace. To ID the worm it has to be under a microscope, my LFS has several marine biologist who diagnosed the white poop as aquatic tapeworm. Right now my biggest concern is cross contamination - I have 12 tanks and close to 80 fish - worms could've been transfered thru the water changes via the python or the nets or by swapping media to cycle thru new tanks. I'll probably prazi the other 11 tanks shortly. Only draw back - makes the house smell fishy.


Thanx for the good info, i think my JAG might be starting on a new garlic menu seeing as he isn't growing.
 
Otherone;3684271; said:
Probably a good idea ............... I suspect that the recently deceased wild caught Gold Saum was the host but I can't varify. API General Cure has some Praziquantel so when I noticed the worm/poop I mixed up a batch in a spray bottle and sprayed the food. The M Festae was the only one with white stringy poop however by the time it shows eggs could be all over the tank and all fish infected - they all stopped eating - 2x festae, jag, salvini, firemouth. At that piont I noticed lumps on their fins, all of them..........probably egg sacks. I changed 50% of the water - added salt for the free swimmers, removed the carbon and media - thru it away as it could also contain eggs and followed the directions from the Jungle Parasite box. Dosed the main tank with all fish still in.The Jungle tabs contain a larger amount of Praziquantel. 48 hours later repeated the same; 50% water change, salt , prazi. 48 hours later 50% water change, salt, replaced new carbon and new media. Then went and got Garlic extract and started soaking their food. Internal parasites don't like garlic and it's a wonderful immune system booster. Also vaccumed the hell outta the bottom of the tank at each water change. Most of the above treatment was told to me by That Fish place then varified on the fish disease forum. The Garlic trick was 100% MFK'ers. Also would like to add that parasites can be in the digestive tract for a very long time before signs are visibale. Some of the signs I now know to look for - Infertility,
slowed growth rate, lack of appetite, eats like a hog yet has a sunken stomach, egg lumps on his fins and body, stringy poop - all of which I've eyewitnessed over the past several months with the Red Terror Male - he should be way bigger for his age. The others only had lumps then refused food probably because of the prazi lace. To ID the worm it has to be under a microscope, my LFS has several marine biologist who diagnosed the white poop as aquatic tapeworm. Right now my biggest concern is cross contamination - I have 12 tanks and close to 80 fish - worms could've been transfered thru the water changes via the python or the nets or by swapping media to cycle thru new tanks. I'll probably prazi the other 11 tanks shortly. Only draw back - makes the house smell fishy.

Great info - thanks for taking the time to share! Will try exactly what you did.

Anybody tried fresh garlic on fish (I don't mean cooking)?
 
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