Aquarium Canister Vac

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john73738

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Thought I would post up a little mod project I just completed. I have a Magnum 350 canister filter on my 75 gallon tank. However I was never happy with the performance of the filter. Figure I was getting no more than 280gph 4x turnover. Tho my parameters were never out of line the tank never looked all that good. So I went out and got a pair of Marineland Penguin 350B power filters. Now I am getting 9x(ish) turnover, and I am finally seeing some water movement. Now what to do with that POS canister filter...:idea: Canister Vac !!!!!:headbang2So just a little modifying of the hoses, and no money down :grinyes: I got a pretty good canister power vac for my tanks. Now I know I am just an amateur on this site with my 2 tanks but I am quickly growing quickly and an easier way to clean them will be a god send.

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Thoughts...

Makes a real cr*ppy canister filter.

Ok as a power vac.

Polish Filter my A%^ !!!

What I needed.

3/4" barb fitting....Free
That's it.

What I will add.

One of Kaiser Sousey's Polish filters before the outlet with a 20 micron filter

Other than that it performs well.


Just passing the idea out to those who have a spare canister filter laying around.

Bear
 
Too bad it didn`t put a big smile on your face.
When I put mine together, it wasn`t a big hit, right away.
Took a few go-rounds before it all just “felt” right and did the job I put it together for.
I am a big fan of the, Use What Ya Got way. I have seen others who say they got OK performance out of their magnums as vacs.
My only thoughts were they have pretty low flow for what I wanted to do and they cost more than using a pump and filter unit and I didn`t have one.
Updates as you go, if you would.
Good luck.
 
I have a spare one of those and that's what I'm going to use it for. I've used them on smaller (55g) tanks, but have always found them noisy.
 
KaiserSousay;3940806; said:
Too bad it didn`t put a big smile on your face.
When I put mine together, it wasn`t a big hit, right away.
Took a few go-rounds before it all just “felt” right and did the job I put it together for.
I am a big fan of the, Use What Ya Got way. I have seen others who say they got OK performance out of their magnums as vacs.
My only thoughts were they have pretty low flow for what I wanted to do and they cost more than using a pump and filter unit and I didn`t have one.
Updates as you go, if you would.
Good luck.

I am with you. I love recycling unused equpiment. The problem is that I am using the paper "Polishing Filter" that came with the Magnum. My guess is that it is a 100 micron (or larger) filter so I get a lot of debris back in the tank. My solution is to wrap the carbon container with filter wool and add micron filter pads underneath the course media. That should decrease the upturned debris. As far as flow I am not upset with that for a vac, could be stronger but no complaints. Figure that I am getting appx 280gph. I am gonna decrease the head loss by using a folding tray to raise the canister closer to the rim of the tank and shorten the outake hose.

All in all it is a work in progress.

RBE17;3941860; said:
I have a spare one of those and that's what I'm going to use it for. I've used them on smaller (55g) tanks, but have always found them noisy.

I am with you. I love the Marineland filters because I think they work the best, but they all are a little loud. I am willing to deal with a little noise for clear water.


Will post updates as they happen.

Bear
 
using a folding tray to raise the canister closer to the rim of the tank and shorten the outake hose.

That and finding some good filter media, should do it.


 
I am gonna decrease the head loss by using a folding tray to raise the canister closer to the rim of the tank and shorten the outake hose.

I just put a thread up about head loss in canisters, everyone said that head loss in a canister is nearly non existent, flow loss comes from media decreasing flow but all in all it sounds like canisters dont lose much flow. Also, in addition to your idea one guy wrote in that he uses his canister as a canister vac and keeps it on his tank as well but he hooks up his vac to the intake tube when he wants to manually pick up debris. Thats what I plan on doing but my vac hose and intake tube are different sizes so I'm going to try to work that out. This way you can still use the canister and get the benefits of the vac. But nice work on the vac hook up.
 
A little update here,

I replace the media with a sponge filter and wrapped the media cartridge with 50 micron filter pad.

will see how this works this time
 
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At some point, working with what you have starts to cost more, in time, efficiency, and money, than just starting from "scratch".
At $30 for the pump, $20 for filter housing, $10-15 for all hose and pipe, and $7 for a pair of 20-30 micron filter cartridges, the above "octopus" is an awesome vac and water polisher.
What makes mine different from yours is
1. Available flow. Mine is in the 350+ gph range.
2. Maintenance. When done cleaning, I unscrew the housing and give the filter cartridge a rinse and it is ready for the next go round.
3. Return flow. This is the big difference. Instead of a hanger for the return, I have mine as a straight pipe that can be directed all around the tank. By changing angles and distance this return can dislodge hidden gunk from the tanks décor. Gets the gunk out where the intake can suck it into the filter.
Unit works quite well and just took a bit of time getting the “method” of hand/pipe action down.
One hand moves the return wand about the tank, blasting loose the gunk, while the other hand has the intake sucking it all up.
I have PFS not gravel.
Would think some plying around with intake pipe sizes would be needed for cleaning gravel beds.
Neither intake or return pipe is glued to the hose fittings so I can swap out the straight vac pipe for hangers when I use the unit as a water polisher. I also use the “taste/odor” cartridges that filter in the below 10 micron range for polishing.
Be looking forward to how your vac works for you.
Good luck
 
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