Leptobotia elongata info. growth and pictures

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I'll start this thread with some information and pictures. If the mods can combine the other threads into this one, and people can contribute pictures and info. they find online as well.

I've first read about this fish many years ago from Chinese books, black and white pictures. The fish originally comes from the Yangtze River, which is the 3rd longest after the Amazon River. Never seen or heard of this fish in the hobby.

I've heard of people saying that over 10 years ago they were once available. However there are none around from then to show for. These fish once in captivity are very hardy and would live for many years. My theory is that the fish were actually larger specimens of pelligrini, as that fish is easily confused with elongata as hydrocynus vittatus and goliaths are confused, or hydrolycus armatus and tatauaia, or small cichla sp., just like anything else. Especially when they're hiding, and emaciated, the 2 are easily confused.

To further support my theory: Leptobotia pelligrini is found in Southern China, and I've seen it exported on several occasions, and also labeled as the "royal clown loach" Southern China is a major fish export HUB, where all the Chinese fish tank products are exported.

Where the elongatas are found, there are no infrastructures set up for any kind of ornamental fish exports. There are very few "pet stores" and only carried a few red ear sliders, some gold fish, betta, and basic equipments. Most of the people there have not heard of let alone care about this fish as we found out after asking around.

2004 I was told they had imported some Royal Clown loaches, which people considered as the L. elongata. I was very excited, ordered and bought all of them. They were thin, 3" long, with red tails, soon to find out that they were infact Leptobotia pelligrini and not elongata.

2006 There were a few transported directly from China to Singapore. Unfortunately they all died before I had a chance to obtain them. These were imported from Central China where they come from alongside some other rare beauties.

2009, we were contacted by the local government township that they have been granted funds to breed and reintroduce this fish into the wild, and they've had 2 successful spawns. We immediately booked out tickets, flew there and met with the people. We donated a lumpsum of money to buy some of the off springs. The "breeder" also took us down to the river where they're found. We combed through fisherman's nets and found nothing. Most fisherman said that they have seen this fish in years, since the 3 gorge dams have been built, blocking the migratory path of these fish to find suitable spawning habitats. The following days we went to another city lower in the river and met with some fisherman that helped us in finding a few specimens from the wild, but most were in poor condition from their collection methods, only a few survived for photography and they then took them back for food or market.

Even though we obtained permission from the local government to obtain some specimens, when we tried to clear customs at the local city airport were faced many troubles. They simply did not allow it., once we drove around town explaining to them our intentions and talked to many inspectors, missed our flight, they finally gave the stamp of approval to ship them into Beijing for further inspection before export. We arrived in Beijing near mid night, after spending another $2000 on last minute plane tickets, hours waiting in line at the cargo, and finding the inspector's office hidden in the completely dark streets of Beijing, we couldn't give up as we would have come back empty handed, and moving forward at that point seemed bleek and expensive. We had no choice but to get it on! Finally around 2 am we were able to claim our fish and bring them back to the hotel in Beijing. The following day we had to find stores, oxygen, and ice to cool them in the searing summer heat and that is another story and whole day ordeal again. Once we got on the plane bound for the US we felt like we've accomplished the impossible. Never have I experienced such difficulty in find a fish, but with the great help Stan Sung, with his mental support, and extensive travel/collecting experience that made this all happen. This the our story of the Holy Grail of all Loaches.

The fate of this fish is unclear, as wild ones are not reproducing since the habitats are destroyed, over fishing, and pollution. Most practice electric fishing in many areas, larger fish get stunned, but most smaller fish like loaches end up dying. There is not a big market for this fish as food, as they're not high on the table fare. If the interest is not there, the government will stop funding the breeding and reintroduction of this fish.

Fish that are also endangered but met enough commercial interest to breed are like the Chinese highfin shark, maxocyprinus asiaticus, they breed millions for food as well as the aquarium trade. In the wild that fish is practically extinct.

We've also encountered dozens of other incredibly interesting fish while collecting along the Yangtze tributary, from small barbs with rainbow like colors to fish with a elephant seal like face, and even heard of a fish that inhabits deep waters with teeth and grows over 20 pounds. There is a specie for ever niche of the hobby and scientific community.

Husbandary care of this fish:

Max length: 36" I've seen pictures of 2 specimens., and 10 pounds
Growth: birth to 8" in one year can be achieved
Water temp: in the wild 40 F-75 F. Scientists have shown they can tolerate up to 90 F for some time with no noticeable effects.
Ph: between 7-8 The fish come from murky water, large rivers, muddy pebble bottoms, with a lot of dissolved minerals making the water hard.
There is scarce vegetation growing alongside the riverbanks in the silt/sand
Sexual dimorphism: they are not visually discernable
Diet: in the wild specimens that were cut open for the study contained small loaches, small catfish Trachysurus sp., and other small river shrimps of caridina sp. In the home aquaria they will easily take prepared food, from dried to frozen and even inhale feeders. If you hold your hand infront of them with food they will even gladely greet you by taking the food from your hand!
 
Thanks for the read Wes, great job:thumbsup:

What you have done for the Elongata is aweomse, and to go through what you have just to bring them in the states is even cooler.
One thing that raises questions to me is the 36" Elongata. Do you think its possible that this is like the magical 15" clown loach that people talk about. Were its talked about and maybe seen once or twice by a few people but everyone talks about them getting this big? I am a little skeptical about them getting this big in an aquarium. Not saying I dont believe you because I do but just how realistic is it to raise a juvie to a 3', 10LB beast? I am guessing the pics you have seen of these are wild caught by fishermen.

I am cerious as to how many of the juvies you have brought in the US? Just trying to get a estimate as to how many are out there.

Thanks again for doing so much for the elongata, alot of hard work i can imagine. And post some pics of your juvies!:cool-1:
Well I will go first
These are in there own 30 gallon. The temp is at 80*F and they are fed worms and shrimp. I havnt had any success on getting them on sinking pellets. I also do a water change every 2-3 days.


First up is my 3 1/2"
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Second.... 3 3/4"
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Bonus pic
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Show em' if you got em'
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Wow... there really isn't a whole lot of info on these fish.

This should be an interesting thread to watch. :popcorn:

Those are nice pics Wes, do you know what size those are?
 
Those are Leptobotia pellegrini?
 
I got 2 that look like the ones that zeppelin3k posted will post some pics when I get home, mines are full on taking carnivore pellets! Eats until they look like there going to explode! They are totally different compared to clown loaches and other loaches!instead of nibbling on there food they swallow it whole! The last 2 pics Wes posted are pelligrini?
 
Here is a few pics of mine:

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Had them for a little over a month now and they seem to be putting on a lot of weight.

IME, they eat much more in warmer waters. I had an ich breakout and left the tank at 90 and they ate like pigs everynight until their bellies would buldge (like in the picture)..

Since ich cleared up I lowered it down to 82 and they do not eat as well as they did.. I'm gonna wait til the weather gets a little warmer then turn the temp up to 86-87.
 
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