Had the big guys over 20 years ago, they were some of the early pigeon bloods. In fact, what turned out to be the biggest started out as a runt. Back then I'd never thought about taking fish photos, I just took my own experiences for granted and in those days before fish forums I never thought someday I'd want to have some documentation of what I did or had for a later date.
About that same time I saw a pair of what they called at the time "royal king discus", which were massive for discus, very impressive fish. Something like pigeon bloods on steroids, quite a bit bigger and thicker, similar overall color scheme as early pigeon bloods but even more vivid and colorful, black and orange and blue and purple. They were like the size of a really large severum. This was in Massachusetts and they were from a New York breeder. Had a chance to buy them and by the time I thought it over and came back a day or two later the original breeder had taken them off the market and taken them home. So I only saw them once, though I spent a good while staring at them, but I haven't seen any like them since, whether for size or color.
I agree there's a lot of debate on discus, which is why I tend to avoid saying some things are the wrong way to do it, even if it's not how I'd do it. With discus there are too many variables to say any one particular thing will or won't work ime, so you get all these different opinions or experiences. Plus, it's possible some color and breeding strains in recent years may just be weaker. I sometimes forget to account for this or mention it when I comment on discus, but it's almost as though some of them are like EBJDs-- along with some strains of discus you get a weaker, harder to raise fish than they should be or used to be-- or would be compared with some other strains. So what's true in one person's experience could be very different from another's, based on multiple factors, including local water, methods of care and feeding, or the breeding source of the fish.