hey all,well i went out today and bought a normal pleco about a foot long.(30cms)so far dovii has been rather pissed bout it with full rams,tail slaps and biting but he hasnt realy hurt pleco yet,so i will see how they go 2gether for a while.100 aussie dollars for my pleco.pretty good as i saw one 2day at another lfs half this ones size for 165dollars.oh well lucky me.thanks for all input guys.post pics soon as i can.