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    My cichlid tank is super dirty!

    Discussion in 'Central and South American Cichlids' started by Macenzi, Dec 9, 2013.

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      I've had it heavier stocked than it currently is, but now it's randomly become filthy with a smell, feces everywhere, I have not changed my filter pads for a while, is that the reason? Or is it something else. I changed them today of course +40% wc.

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      8" red devil
      5" oscar
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      3x 3" jewel
      5.5" blood parrot
      2" convict
      5" red tail shark
      2x 10" pleco

      As I said I've had tank more stocked than this so I don't know what's up.
      Plecos and gar are being rehomed soon and pacu when it's larger.


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      If your feeding NLS could be that. I've noticed that since I started feeding it my cichlid poop more frequently and larger sizes


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      This is due likely to either feeding too large a pellet or over feeding. It is incredibly nutrient dense so your fish need to eat far less than with other foods( which most people still over feed). In your case if the only mess you really are seeing is extra feces than it's likely over feeding. Don't feel bad it's easy to do. If your filter pads are a red color that's another likely sign of either overfeed in got feeding too large a pellet.
      As for the op that tank is very heavily stocked even after said fish are removed. That isn't a huge amount if water volume. You will be happier with a lighter stock as will your fish.


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      It's not always how many fish, but species of fish makes a difference, some are a lot messier than others-- one possibility. Food can make a difference (obviously overfeeding can be a factor), but as soon as you mention specific brands of food you start a debate that imo doesn't really answer your question in this instance.

      Dirty filter can make a difference (also dirty substrate, etc.), certainly to overall water quality, and theoretically to how fast solid waste is broken down-- and therefore how much is visible. Has to do with redox, little complicated to explain, but basically it's an aspect of water chemistry that can affect how quickly solid wastes break down into smaller components.

      But the first thing that I see right now is not just how many fish but types of fish in your tank. Oscars are messy, large plecos are messy, etc.
       
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      way over stocked.. you would need to be doing a huge WC every day to keep up with that bio load. What kind of filter's are you running? Have you checked the water for ammonia, nitrite and nitrate?
       
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      If you are using an under gravel filter, try removing a couple caps, or lift tubes at each plate. Then stick a hose in each hole and siphon out some of the debris. It may just be too much mulm under the plates and the debris is being pushed back into the tank. Also, I agree with the others it is way overstocked.
       
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      I run two hang on the back filters, ammonia 0 nitrite 0 nitrate 10ppm.

      I know it's overstocked but I found a couple fish that I wanted to keep for life, so I got them and now I just need to re home others. But I usually keep slightly overstocked tanks


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      I just moved the tank 4 hours so maybe all the dirt just got out of substrate


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      I say get bigger better filters mybe 2 aquaclear and a powerhead to keep water movement for the filters to catch cut down on feeding that's what I would do

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      Sounds like you've been slacking off on vacuuming the gravel...Although you didn't mention what kinds of hang on filters you have it does not sound as if they will be able to handle that bio load so you should look into a wet/dry sump system to ad to or replace one of them.
       

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