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Enriching the water with CO2 is that plant growth and development is enhanced, but turning it down will not help with this issue. Algae is caused by excess nutrients that the plants aren't utilizing, once algae starts it depends on light for photosynthesis just like plants do.

My question is what amount of ferts are you dosing, it sounds like you're going with the EI dosing regime because of the dosing schedule you have... With a classic EI dosing regime it's based on a heavily planted tank, and it sounds like you have a lightly planted tank, am I right?

The Finnex Ray II DS is putting out a PAR of 73 at 18" which means if your substrate is 3" deep then you're getting the 73 PAR which is too much light for the little amount of plants that in your tank... I would do the following; Getting more plants to take up the extra nutrients in the tank and and use this calculator - http://rotalabutterfly.com/nutrient-calculator.php - to see how much of each fert your tank needs, I was in the same boat of dosing too much ferts to my tank until I found this calculator.

PAR data for the light...



When it comes to PAR anything between 40 - 80 is medium lighting and needs co2... Now my question now is what source are you using for co2? Like DIY, liquid supplement like excel, or co2 injection. So I would definitely add more plants, high light plants will grow under medium lighting as well meaning the Ray II DS will grow pretty much anything and everything.

I would get 2 True Siamese Algae Eaters for your tank or some Amano Shrimp, both are relentless when it comes to algae.

If you're using a co2 injection system it should come on 1 hr before the lighting turns on, and should shut off 1 hour before the lighting shuts off. This helps to saturate the tank with co2 and make it instantly available to the plants when the lights turn on, and then it supplies enough co2 for the plants to use up before the lighting shuts off. Plants use co2 during the day, but use oxygen at night; This is why most people have their co2 injection turn on 1 hour before the lighting, and shut off 1 hour before the lighting.
 
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Hey Unrated, thanks for the great info. Yes i am using the EI dosing method and co2 injection. Also, my tank would be considered lightly planted. I actually ordered another timer so I can control my co2 and light independently. I'll also use the calculator to figure out a proper amount of ferts to use.

When dosing ferts, should you dose it when the lights come on? Before the lights come on?
 

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I dose them in my tank around 11am, this lets the plants use up any excess nutrients that may be present in the tank. Other people may dose before any lighting turns on... Basically it's what your personal preference is, there is no right or wrong time to dose your tank.

Having the lighting and co2 on separate timers is always best, it's what I always did, and plan to do in the future.
 

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2. Should i increase my lighting time to 9 hours?
3. What test kits should i get?
2. No. Try 12-14 hours
3. If you don't know your water, then how do you know how much ferts to dose? I'd get nitrate and iron tests as a start.
 
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