What Is Your Favorite Gar? Bonus Choice: Bowfin

[E_americanus]

There is no reason to not lump Bowfin with Gars... We did this on Aquatic Predators many moons ago back in the day.. Interestingly though when we did that the Native fish people threw a total fit as we where taking away the star fish... They do not need their own sub forum.. they and Gar go hand and hand in many ways. I would very much welcome Bowfin being added here to the Gar forum.

Not sure why this would be a problem to the powers that be.. I mean really it is nothing but adding a few more pixels to you. We would continue to add the content and make it work.. I can't see why it would not work or somehow break the site and destroy everything..

Bowfin are a very cool fish and they do deserve more attention as they do make for great pet fish.. More exposure on them is only a good thing IMO..

absolutely correct. there is virtually NO WORK to making that change, and that is the appropriate change to make. no new forum, sub-forum, or any other BS. just change the freaking Gar sub-forum name to simply "Gars and Bowfin" and it's DONE.

a new pinned topic or two about bowfins could be added (that way no one will read them and we'll get the same repeat questions like with gars), but it would generally be a seamless transition.

unlike other fishes where people could argue more, this is ONE species. when possible fishes should be grouped in forum by those they are similar to, not just lumped together because of region. note...when possible; the natives forum (or whatever it's called here) is fine for groups of fishes, but one primitive species like the bowfin more correctly belongs here.

someone make this happen please--
--solomon

 

[Madding]

I wonder if Alex can plead the case for us? There seems to be a lot of forum support (on top of the more-important scientific reasoning/evidence) and by not creating a sub-forum which risks being boring and dead, the worry over doing work for nothing goes away... I am all for Gars becoming Gars and Bowfin. We make a couple stickies that only we will read, but at least we can link any confused people to them.

 

[pharmaecopia]

I also think a gar and bowfin subforum would be suitable. Over on AP it worked fine. It also seems like many of the gar forum regulars are those that are mos interested in bowfin to begin with.

 

[xander]

I wonder if Alex can plead the case for us? There seems to be a lot of forum support (on top of the more-important scientific reasoning/evidence) and by not creating a sub-forum which risks being boring and dead, the worry over doing work for nothing goes away... I am all for Gars becoming Gars and Bowfin. We make a couple stickies that only we will read, but at least we can link any confused people to them.

will do so when Li is done with the rest of the things im bugging him to do...hahaha

 

[E_americanus]

will do so when Li is done with the rest of the things im bugging him to do...hahaha

i'll talk to Li and some others as well. this shouldn't take hardly ANY work. i've worked with forum software on a cursory level (at least in making/modifying forum settings), and it's merely a name change to this forum which should take less than 10 minutes (if that). threads can be moved later on, and it should start being populated by new threads on its own anyway.

i would request that we be able to put together stickies from threads, etc...i know xander is busy, but the current state of the stickies (even though there are many benefits compared to how it was) is not ideal (and no one person has the time to fix that).

again, probably a 5-minute fix, and that's if one struggles with the spelling of the word "bowfin" --
--solomon

 

[szymon328]

had to vote florida cuz i love my lil flo rida gar

 

[Madding]

Florida gar coming back with a vengeance.

 

[xander]

i'll talk to Li and some others as well. this shouldn't take hardly ANY work. i've worked with forum software on a cursory level (at least in making/modifying forum settings), and it's merely a name change to this forum which should take less than 10 minutes (if that). threads can be moved later on, and it should start being populated by new threads on its own anyway.

i would request that we be able to put together stickies from threads, etc...i know xander is busy, but the current state of the stickies (even though there are many benefits compared to how it was) is not ideal (and no one person has the time to fix that).

again, probably a 5-minute fix, and that's if one struggles with the spelling of the word "bowfin" --
--solomon

going to have to disagree with you, convincing a team of people to agree on the same thing almost never takes less than 10 mins...

we definitely need to re-do the stickies, and adding more bowfin stickies will surely add to the clutter. but all that really takes time that none of us (members and staff alike) seem to have much of in excess these days...

will start pushing the gar/bowfin case when i'm home. but in the meantime, what will help our case is patience and no one shooting their mouths off

 

[xander]

back on track with the original topic

Gar & Bowfin merger thread here --> http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/f...5424-Gar-amp-Bowfin-Subforum-Merge-Discussion

 

[E_americanus]

going to have to disagree with you, convincing a team of people to agree on the same thing almost never takes less than 10 mins...

we definitely need to re-do the stickies, and adding more bowfin stickies will surely add to the clutter. but all that really takes time that none of us (members and staff alike) seem to have much of in excess these days...

will start pushing the gar/bowfin case when i'm home. but in the meantime, what will help our case is patience and no one shooting their mouths off

replied to your comment in the other thread...i disagree with your interpretation

i FINALLY voted...since there wasn't an "all of the above" (which is sort of too easy of a catch-all, so i'm not really complaining) i went with spotted gar. i'll elaborate on my answer and other gar species later (gotta be up in less than 4 hours). for now, spotted gars are the main focus of my dissertation work, and the focus of my and richard's collaborative efforts over the past several years. we've worked with/kept all the other species, and have plans to expand further in-depth with those species, but the SPGs have been the main species for years now.

i like their look (and it is unique!), behavior, and "rarity" even though they have a broad range and to most people look like a typical Florida gar. the teeth on the wild fish are ridiculous (for those interested in the whole toothy predatory aspect), and the recent research on the species holds a lot of interesting insights and potential into the world of next-generation genetic sequencing and understanding vertebrate development.

Loculatus of Gar.

--solomon