Salt Newbie w/Questions

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Wiggles good job - I trained you well padiwan.

Willz - sounds like you are off to a great start to the saltwater side of the hobby. Love to see you putting in effort to go about this the "right" way.

Its fine with the water in there now.

I would wash your sand very throughally (with freshwater will be fine) and add it to the tank in small portions.

Most of your bacteria is on your rock anyways - and this gets rid of any detritus that your sand is holding that will effect h2o quality in your new setup. In addition it means that you can get sand into your tank without making too much of a mess in the way of cloudyness. This is how I filled my 125g mixed reef - I had just torn it down literaly hours before and it was a old DSB tank. So if anything was going to make a mess - it woulda been this tank. I just washed very small portions in an ice cream pail and added them slowly.
 
Wonder how the move is going ._. I want to see a post

anyone know if a 2-3inch sandbed with 2-3mm sand is alright? i bought some extra sand to make the sand even out and well my coral sand is now 2-3inches in my 6x2x2 tank.

theres no fish in it, should be having a green hawaiian lionfish in it at the end of the year.
 
Hello All,

Started the process of moving the tank at 4:30 yesterday. Bought 8 5G buckets to keep some of his water. Started by siphoning off the "good water" into buckets. When I had 50 gallons worth, I started removing the LR. It took two 38 gallon totes to get it all. He had a lot. Once I had the LR out, I put a few chunks into a bucket, then put the fish in with it. The sand, sump, EVERYTHING, was FILTHY. I wish I would have known yesterday I could have rinsed the sand in freshwater (where were you yesterday at 3:30 Fleshy!!!, ha). The saltwater was at a premium because I had only mixed up 40 gallons new the night before. Gave the 90G to a buddy, it was in pretty rough shape, but he can probably sell "as is on CL" for $50 or so. Moved all the water and supplies up to my apartment. Put a heater and a Koralia on the fish bucket. Sent the GF out to get a big trash can to drain the water into while I added the sand. Realized that the sump wouldn't fit under my hood :( No matter how I tried it, it wasn't going to fit without cutting out a center brace, and I wasn't about to do that. GF gets back with the trash can. Discuss sump situation with GF. Decide to put sump behind tank, which means moving tank out 18" from spare bedroom wall. Start a siphon to get the new water out of my tank so I could add the sand and move the tank. Ran to Lowes to get some tubing (his was kind of shot) for the return pump. Got home to find the trashcan WAY bowed with 40G of water in it. Got panicked quickly moved the tank out from the wall and added his sand. Put the card board over the sand and started pumping. Huge mess. I really don't think this guy cleaned his aquarium in like 5 years. Once I had the trashcan empty I started "stacking" the LR in there. By stacking I mean blindly putting the chunks of rock into the tank as it was Burning Man sandstorm visibility in the tank at this point. Had a ton of LR that I put into the refugium since my tank is a 75 and his was a 90, I just didn't need all of the LR in the display. Got the sump running. Couldn't figure out the skimmer 3 beers into the night, so I cleaned an AC110 and added the carbon insert to try and get some mechanical and chemical filtration going. The sump only had a filter sock and LR which seemed lacking in the way of mechanical/chemical. About midnight I check on the fish bucket and weigh the pros and cons of leaving them in the bucket, which was looking and smelling nasty, or adding them to the tank, which was still super cloudy (cloudy doesn't even begin). Since the temps were balanced I checked his water's salinity and was surprised to see it was at 1.019, the stuff I had mixed up was at 1.023. Decided to do a drip into the bucket from my tank to hopefully acclimate them to the water. By 2am I added the fish and called it a night.

Wake up this morning and it's still cloudy, but at least there is some visibility. I can see the back of the tank and my spastic "stacking" job with the rock. Not pretty. Got the skimmer running, though. Also cut some Matala and put it in one of the bubble baffles in sump for now to help with getting the particles out of the water column.

The fish are still alive. Everything is working as it should. I'm embarrassed to take a picture and post it because it is still really cloudy and I haven't taken the time to restack the rocks so they look half-ass decent.

If anyone has anything to suggest I do, or don't do, feel free. Like the title says I'm a total salt newbie, so I'm counting on my reading and experienced fish keepers to help me make this tank work. There's no club in town and I don't know anyone else that has a salt tank, so feel free to blast me if I'm doing something stupid (ie the AC110 w/carbon, or the Matala filter floss in the sump).

Thanks all for your help! It went as smoothly as could be expected and I didn't kill the fish or flood the apartment :)
 
For times like this, I am glad I still have my Magnum 350. :D

Keep that skimmer running hard, and go heavy on the mech filtration (micron would be ideal) for the next few hours and that tank should be clear in no time. :D
 
If the sump isn't under the stand you might want to think about a lid for it

Good idea. The skimmer sticks out of the top on the inflow side, but I can cover the center and return sides. He sent some tempered glass that he was using for a lid, so I can just put them on the top. Is this to reduce evaporation, and salt crust from the bubbles?
 
For times like this, I am glad I still have my Magnum 350. :D

Keep that skimmer running hard, and go heavy on the mech filtration (micron would be ideal) for the next few hours and that tank should be clear in no time. :D

I have a Mag 350 with the micron filter, but I wasn't sure if I could use it for SW. Should I clean the filter and hook it up?

Also, I have a JBL 13W Submariner UV sterilizer that I could pull from my troph tank's sump. With all the particles in the water column I didn't think it would be a good idea to run that thing until I got it a little clearer.

The water is a LOT clearer this morning. The skimmer pulled a lot of gunk yesterday, but hadn't pulled nearly as much last night. Maybe it has gotten the bulk of the organics out already (hopefully).
 
I use the Mag 350 when I clean, knock sand around etc.

I have used it for both fresh and salt. It's 16+ years old also. Might be the best mech filter I have even owned, besides a protein skimmer. 16+ years and it will still suck a golf ball thru a water hose lol :D
 
I use the Mag 350 when I clean, knock sand around etc.

I have used it for both fresh and salt. It's 16+ years old also. Might be the best mech filter I have even owned, besides a protein skimmer. 16+ years and it will still suck a golf ball thru a water hose lol :D

The chrome off a trailer hitch? haha....
 
haha, yeah my dad (old schooler) ran FO tanks with undergravel (sand) bio filtration setups and used the mag 350s for pure mech.

Now a days I only use them for cleaning/maintenance. They are really good (so simplistic) mech filters. One of Marinelands best products ever manufactured in my book.
:D
 
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