This is what they are calling sp INRIDAE, opinions?
From DJ/MC Decker
Yeh thats them
Severum Confusion
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Yeh thats them
These are coming out of Colombia as XL. Another group buy list has cf. Notatus from Florida no less. Hoping to find out more at our meeting tomorrow. From what I understand he have to fill 1/2 box lots, so different members are going to split p different species. I only have 1 notatus and would enjoy a couple more if possible. My girlfriend has Apistogramma inridae, it would be cool to grab a Heros or 2 from same region.
From DJ/MC Decker
From DJ/MC Decker
I can make you all the notatus you want. 
There is also an Aequidens being listed from Inirida but I cannot find pictures of it.
There is also an Aequidens being listed from Inirida but I cannot find pictures of it.
Oh guys dont confuse me further lol, so the Inirida species is a sub species of the Heros efasciatus like the 'Rotkeil' but am I right in saying their is a debate in whether they should be classed as their own species?
Hope I have got this write!
Hope I have got this write!
I can make you all the notatus you want.
There is also an Aequidens being listed from Inirida but I cannot find pictures of it.
They had this pic of diadema on colombian order w/ inridae
From DJ/MC Decker
Cichlid Room Companion (www.cichlidae.com) still lists H. appendiculatus as a valid species: http://www.cichlidae.com/gallery/species.php?id=550
I have two wild breeding pairs that came from a group of 6 fry I bought at the ACA convention a few years ago (source: Peru) and a bunch of F1s growing out/getting fed to the pikes I brought back from Uruguay. The most apparent difference that I've seen is a lot more red/dark orange in the bottom half of the H. appendiculatus and more irregular black vertical blotchy bars. Mine are about 8-9" in a 150g and breed about monthly... I have no doubt that the spare male that I had (who was pwned by one of the pairs) would have happily shacked up with a female H. efasciatus or anything severum-shaped.
Matt
I have two wild breeding pairs that came from a group of 6 fry I bought at the ACA convention a few years ago (source: Peru) and a bunch of F1s growing out/getting fed to the pikes I brought back from Uruguay. The most apparent difference that I've seen is a lot more red/dark orange in the bottom half of the H. appendiculatus and more irregular black vertical blotchy bars. Mine are about 8-9" in a 150g and breed about monthly... I have no doubt that the spare male that I had (who was pwned by one of the pairs) would have happily shacked up with a female H. efasciatus or anything severum-shaped.
Matt
They also have a picture of H. spurius, which looks just like a boring all-grey female severum that I had last year who spawned with my turquoise male. I ended up giving her away because I thought she was a really poor quality efasciatus. Now I'm seeing that she might have been something rare?
The Rotkeil isn't an efasciatus as it has only 8 bars like the Inirida, whereas the efasciatus has 9.
I think the number of bars is a significant enough difference to warrant having them as a seperate species surely? Look at all the Mbuna in africa that look almost identical but with very slight differences in colouration that are all calssified as seperate species, yet Icthyologists look at all the different severums and group them into 4 species?
The entire icthyology of CA/SA cichlids is a complete mess. the fish constantly change into different family groups for no real reason. there is about 15 different Amphilophus sp that all look exactly like Midas but either barred, grey, white, light cream etc. yet they were all classified as distinct species although all they really have different from eachother is slight morphology and colour. so why haven't the severums been treated like this?
The entire icthyology of CA/SA cichlids is a complete mess. the fish constantly change into different family groups for no real reason. there is about 15 different Amphilophus sp that all look exactly like Midas but either barred, grey, white, light cream etc. yet they were all classified as distinct species although all they really have different from eachother is slight morphology and colour. so why haven't the severums been treated like this?
