CREATING THE ULTIMATE FILTRATION AND EVOLVING WITH YOUR FISH!!!!!!

[jcardona1]

That is exactly what I do and it has been working well (no issues after four+ years). Another advantage to this is you aren't restricted by gravity, so you can run your waste line through the attic/walls if your house is built on a slab and you can't go through the floor.

Yeah! It was you that I originally got the idea from. Seems fail-proof too. If the pump fails, there's no risk of flooding. Just no water gets changed. The only potential risk is a stuck float valve. But these things are so mechanically simple that I don't see that happening. I'm using a pretty high quality unit I purchased from Jehmco which gives me even more comfort.

Yes, but if you back wash the first one, water won't come into the second one. However, you did make a good point that I overlooked. Maybe I could back wash the second one first, then backwash the first one, or vice versa. This thread is getting good!

I don't think I follow. So you have two canisters. Could you install some tees and valves to divert the flow individually to do a backflush? That way you can clean each one separately and not worry about what happens to the other one.

Bakki shower is great for pond. I still have 20kg of those bio-house media. Works wonder in wet/dry with 2000+gph flow. I could notice the fish love it within week of switching out bio-ball to those media. However, we dont' keep tank on ground level, so with stand and tank height, there's not much height above, plus I don't want to see all those racks above my tank If I put my monster tank on the floor, I rather put another monster tank on top of it.

Yeah the height required is the issue. If I had a DIY indoor pond/pool for large fish like rays I'd definitely invest in a setup like this.

 

[jlnguyen74]

I don't think I follow. So you have two canisters. Could you install some tees and valves to divert the flow individually to do a backflush? That way you can clean each one separately and not worry about what happens to the other one.

If I install 2 canister back to back, the outlet of the first one will connect to inlet of second one. The 3rd ports for backwash water of both will be left alone. When I flip the handle on the first one to backwash, no water came thru the outlet port into the 2nd one. I could backwash the first one first. One all waste clear out on the first one. I flip the handle back to filter so the water can go thru the outlet into the 2nd one, flip the handle on the 2nd one to backwash to backwash that one. Or I could back wash the 2nd one first, then back wash the first one. No tees or valves needed. No need to divert the flow. A little more work with flipping valves and turn pump on and off, but it doable

 

[bretthogan]

i would also like to see a diagram of what pump does what on Hulons system. it would be very helpful.

 

[jcardona1]

When I flip the handle on the first one to backwash, no water came thru the outlet port into the 2nd one.

Yeah this is where I got confused ^ Why would it matter if water isn't going to the second one temporarily? And why the need to backflush the second one first?

 

[jlnguyen74]

Yeah this is where I got confused ^ Why would it matter if water isn't going to the second one temporarily? And why the need to backflush the second one first?

No, it doesn't matter if water goes thru the second one when you backwash the first one, or which filter you want to backwash first. I was stuck on the thought of backwashing both of them at the same time before, which can't be done if water doesn't come into the 2nd one, thus, I put it off. I saw/learned a good point from your other post to get it works now, just backwashing them individually.

 

[jcardona1]

Ah gotcha. Our bead filter has the same type of multi-port valve so I wasn't sure why it mattered since waste goes out a separate line

 

[jlnguyen74]

Ah gotcha. Our bead filter has the same type of multi-port valve so I wasn't sure why it mattered since waste goes out a separate line

Yup... At first, I was thinking to connect the waste line of the 1st one to the inlet of 2nd one with a T, so I could backwash them together, since water still go from 1st wasteline to 2nd inlet and out 2nd waste line. But that idea will put some waste back into 1st and 2nd one, since T goes both way. I didn't even think about just leave the waste line alone, and backwash them individually, just like the filter was designed, waste goes out separate line. I was lazy and greedy

 

[FishFreak95]

Any of you use plants in your filtration systems?
I'm surprised that not many people do. I know someone said that once your nitrites and ammonia are 0 theres nothing you can do to make it better. But what about nitrates? Plants(aquatic or terrestrial) would improve it, wouldn't it?

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[DB junkie]

Drips could be considered the "holy grail" for Nitrate, but if the water coming out of the drip is crap (8.8+Ph Nitrate 15ppm) then it's still going to be stressing rays isn't it?

I've incorporated 2 big stock tanks and will begin messing with RO in one of them. While a drip might not be an option anymore I think with several waterchanges a week with mixed water I can still get decent results, with decent water.

I rigged up a 2in hard line to siphon from the tank to a 55 gallon drum where the siphon breaks and water goes out to the street via a pair of 2" lines. With 250 gallon waterchanges coming in at under 15 minutes to perform I don't get stuck watching a tank refill. I just drain the tank/sump and crack the 2in ball valves and you're done before casually sipping a cold one. Just need float valves to get rid of the manula filling of the tubs. Only problem is I'll have to change the plan come winter.

Bakki showers to me are great outside but who wants one in their house? Can't you achieve the same o2 saturation through a well driven bio reactor?

Am I wrong in thinking that lb for lb reactors harbor the strongest bio since the media is constantly crashing together knocking off or culling the old weak bio that's then whisked away by the valve in the bottom resulting in never having to clean your bio like you would with any othe means of bio besides backflushing bead filters?

 

[HULON]

i would also like to see a diagram of what pump does what on Hulons system. it would be very helpful.

Ok sorry i took so long guys here is a rough sketch hopefully you get the Idea !!!