New 210 Native Aquarium
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Relax, tiger! Here's the steak for you.
I'm sure MasterB has backup plans for these monsters. IMO overstocking the sunnies in 210gal sounds good idea considered that they are greenies, longears and warmouths, all are known for their super aggressive. I've seen most fish were killed was from understocked tanks with just three or five sunnies but never from overstocked tanks. As for the sauger, they do not get larger than the walleye so I doubt that it will outgrow the 210gal.
You are in Tenn....but I think you are looking in wrong places. The natives are literally everywhere in your state, even in your local lakes and rivers.
I didn't even see your post....
So do you pick on everyone on here about what they have in their tank? I didn't see you complaining about my 500 gallon with all those rays, peacock bass, eels, cats, etc. What about all the fish keepers here with Tiger Fish that get twice the size a musky could ever think about getting, what about all those big cats in tanks smaller than mine, I can go on and on. I usually don't comment on this these posts but since you did it in mine I guess I have too.
Yea, I have a 5" bass, he is so cramped in their isn't he?, being that he is a KY bass, that don't get anywhere near the size of a smallmouth or largemouth, I'm sure he is just fine, the Musky is doing well also, the 210 is 24" wide, he is around 10" or so, plenty of room to turn around and hunt what he wants to eat, its not like I have a 30" Arro in a 24" wide tank, and the Sauger, all he does is sit on the bottom, all day long, every day, just like a Walleye, I think the Musky is less active because all I see him do is stay at the top until a small fish swims by him for an easy meal or when I toss him some food, everyone now and then I will see almost vertical with the plants waiting for the crawdad to make a mistake and move, but the Sauger is fine as well, these fish don't grow inches over night.
So what I say doesn't justify anything but what you say does? Are you saying I should stock my tank to how you see fit?
This is a small tank for me, you are obviously new here and haven't read all my posts, but then again maybe you did but I'm just going to go ahead and say you didn't. Here is a refresher for you, I just sold my 500 gallon, 265, and 220 before I moved to my new 1 bed apartment. I bought the 210 to hold my left over peacock bass because the same guy bought my 500 and 265. Since the 210 didn't sell after I moved, I decided to put it off for a few and buy a 29. So I did, filled it with Darters, which I probably have about 40 in their now. Then I decided to make the 210 a native tank, I have access to fish in a lot of areas, I consider myself to be a pretty good fisherman as I can go out and catch just about whatever I want, big or small for my tank. Over the years, with native fish, I found out the hard way the most of the time, at least in my tanks, the more the better. You get one fish that will rule the tank over the other 5 fish, but you add 10 more and problem is solved. I like to have a multi-species tank with fish that all pretty much fit together for the time being. I'm hoping, really hoping that I get a house next summer with my lady friend. She knows what I want, which is a tank between 500 and 1000 gallons, I'm leaning more towards a 1000, only because I already had a 500 so I need to up it a little and I still have the Ultima II 10,000 filter which would be perfect for a 1000 gallon system. I think a native 1000 gallon system would be awesome. But till then, this is what I have to work with. I have lost two fish so far, one was a Longear in the 29, the other Longear eventually killed him and I lost the Walleye, he had a damaged eye when I got him but since he was the only one at his size, the rest were around 20", I went ahead and got him. His eye looked like it was healing, then it got infected, he didn't eat and died as well. I'm sure I will lose others over time, just as everyone else on here has lost fish, there isn't a perfect fish keeper on here, we all make mistakes at one time or another. Since these fish are wild, down the road it may be hard to get them to eat or they just may not do well at all in an aquarium setting, such as I'm thinking a Hognose Sucker. My buddy hasn't had the best of luck but I'm trying them out.
With all the friends I have met on MKF, I have a big network of people to who I can sell my fish too. BigRich has a 4000 gallon aquarium, ponds, etc. We do business all the time, I have two folks that would love to have the Musky I have when he gets larger for their ponds, which I fish in as well. I don't see myself having any problems whatsoever with selling or giving away my fish.
From what I see you give some good advice, And you're pretty fish smart... But you do get a little to into the overstocking/what are you going to do with the fish once they get bigger talk. You can call it what you want (ASSumption) I call it a fact. If I cared enough I would copy and paste all you're quotes. But you can do as you want seeing its a public forum. I know I see things that make me shake my head but I don't care to post a bunch of negative comments in threads, Then have to argue on the internet when someone doesn't agree. Eachisown
PS: I just added another sunfish to my tank.
I will not be stubborn and I'll admit I was wrong. I was quick to judge, but that is only because time and time again, we have seen those fish keepers with giants in an extremely undersized confinement. No I don't police all overstocked tanks, but since fish keepers with natives are a smaller sized group, I see it beneficial to disapprove of improperly housed natives. My intent is simply to do my part to discourage people from setting a precedent with muskies and other natives like what has been done with arowana, tiger fish, cichla, the list goes on.
If anything, I am relieved that you are a fish keeper who will actually upgrade and suit these fishes' needs. I am very relieved that you have a plan for the musky. Again, please do not take offense to my approach. You are right, I did not have any knowledge of your previous setups. I am certainly interested to see how these fish turn out; please keep us updated.
