Cichlid average size

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If Dovii's have been found at least 32", umbi's at 32", and temensis at 43", it doesn't tell us the maximum, median or mean for those populations. We can only guess at even the maximum size since of course it's unlikely the largest ones have been found and because we already know that most never reach full maturity due to disease, predation, ecological events, etc. We can also only guess at whether fish in the wild have ideal conditions for maximum growth.

What are you not getting here
THE LARGEST SIZE EVER RECORDED, WILD OR NOT is 26'' for a Dovii and 24'' for a Umbee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You do not fish for these fish, without knowing what you are fishing for, you have to go to remote and specific locations to find them, and if you catch a fish that is close to that size, you are going to MEASURE AND WEIGH IT, that is common knowledge.
So once again,
NO DOVII OR UMBEE HAS EVEEEERRRR HIT 30''
EVER!!!!!!
 
I could go out tomorrow and catch a record breaking instance of any fish. But maybe I dont register it. Doesnt mean it doesnt exist. Just saying...

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No, you cant.
And that is why these records stand for long periods of time, its not like they just starting documenting fish weights, length's etc.
Records are not easily broken, that is not how it works.
Not only that, but records also FORCE you to VERIFY the weight and claim. Its not just some guy, embellishing to his friends to make it seem larger, HENCE "fish tales"
 
My personal experience. Biggest Jags I've seen have been 17-18in tops 2 in a 180 other in a 125. The 1 in the 125 was a petstore jag others were F1 & F2

Dovii biggest I've personally seen is 22in in a 400-450gal tank. Still growing though. F1 with F1 12in fem

Biggest Oscars & RD's have been 14in "maybe 15in" in 125gallons solo. All petstore varieties

Common factor with all these big tanks with big frequent wc's. If given enough space & prestine water a fish should get close to the max size even without the heavy culling they get in nature. Oh yeah & if you don't overfeed which I've seen so many people do. IMHO of course
 
No, you cant.
And that is why these records stand for long periods of time, its not like they just starting documenting fish weights, length's etc.
Records are not easily broken, that is not how it works.
Not only that, but records also FORCE you to VERIFY the weight and claim. Its not just some guy, embellishing to his friends to make it seem larger, HENCE "fish tales"

Of course I could. Or any other joe. Or as mentioned some tribesmen somewhere. Is someone fishing to feed his village gonna measure? Probably not. Like I said, just because it hasn't been recorded or catalogued doesnt mean it doesnt exist. Who cares what the current max is. The previous max was smaller and the next will be bigger. Theres more to this world than what we write down on paper

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Of course I could. Or any other joe. Or as mentioned some tribesmen somewhere. Is someone fishing to feed his village gonna measure? Probably not. Like I said, just because it hasn't been recorded or catalogued doesnt mean it doesnt exist. Who cares what the current max is. The previous max was smaller and the next will be bigger. Theres more to this world than what we write down on paper

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Once again, you are BURDENED with something called PROOF!!!
Since NOBODY has been able to PROVE that they have the same species of fish, at a larger weight and length, the CONCLUSION is that, those are THE MAXIMUM sizes of these fish, until PROVEN (there's that word again) otherwise.
This is not debatable.
Thats like saying, blues whales can grow up to 200ft, they just havent been documented yet.
 
How am I ' again' burdened with proof. What you are missing is that im not disputing your quoted record. Im just stating the possibility of bigger unrecorded specimens. Im not saying there is im saying there could be. Or could have been in the past. Why are you so worked up about it anyways?

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