My group of aurantimaculata

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The" rough" female is a serial killer and couldn´t be with any other channa. It started harassing them and ripping their fins if not in day one, in day two or three of cohabiting.
I tried mixing it all again and put all four together again in hopes she would pair up with the big (and only more likely to be) male. But with no success.
After a while dedicated to the other 2 channas in the tank (giving them a hard time) she cornered the bigger male (not bitting but flaring and "pushing" him) and by day 2 she was chasing him everytime he tried to leave the corner.
The small poss female (the one that was with the male) tried to "man up "(or women up) against the dominant female but the size differente (from 7 to 10") gave her no chance. She also attacked (and was fought back) the other channa (the one that was initially in the dominant female´s side) .These two engaged in a mortal fight..

So I took the only decision that seemed logical which meant departing with the dominant (and overall best looking) fish of the group. The dominant female is now at Miguel´s place as a solo fish in a tank. She will be very well cared for.

I also separated the one that was initially with that dominant female (in the leftside of the tank) removed the divider and left the two that seemed to have paired up alone in the tank. These two - that were in the right side of the tank, see above posts -get along very well. Eat together, swim closely and "rub noses and bodies" all the time. Evertyhing points to be a confirmed macth but only time will tell.

Finally and on a side note, it really is more difficult than I suspected to sex them (specially the 3 smaller ones)! I think I got almost eveything wrong in my first assessment, except for te dominant female.

The bigger one (11") is very very likely a male. Once it started to settle and opened its fins it was clear that the dorsal fin is much wider than the dorsal fins of all the others. I would say it is ~1,5cms (1/2") wider than the one of the dominant female. He is also the calmest of the group.

As regards the other 3...(all between 7 and 9")
-the smaller (7") one that is getting along with the male is most likely "his" female;
-the one that was previously with the dominant female (left side of the tank), I suspect also female because as soon as I removed the divider and as mentioned above it started immediately fighting with the likely small female that paired up with the male.
-the one that I firstly separated from the group (after being trashed by the dominant female), I really don´t know.


Too confusing? Anyway the current status is:
- tank with a likely pair (not to be disturbed);
- one likely female separated and solo in another tank in my place (backup "likely female")
- dominant female solo at Miguel´s place;
- 5th fish solo at Miguel´s place.
 
That's channa for you !

It's still quite the accomplishment to get just a single pair out of group though, you'll find very few people have a true pair who live peacefully full time so congrats!

and yes they can be very difficult to sex , depending on the angle the colors and lengths can look male or female especially at those sizes. Although in your original post those shot's from above show the scull shape very well.

Out of curiosity from those acclimation pic's do you know who is who ? Like which 2 became the pair and which ones have been separated ? I'm just curious if it turned out that the 2 in the white box were male , and the 3 in the tub were 2 females and a male ?
 
Thanks Devon!

However, I believe its too early to say I have a compatible pair....Looks like it, I hope so, but only time will tell, I guess.

I´ll see if in the coming days I am able to take a few pics of the ones I still have with me to post here so you can help sexing them (hopefully confirming my suspicions)
 
Lol, i believe i was in edit again while you were posting
 
I found these 3 pics in my cell phone of the - most likely - male.
This is the one I am more confident regarding sexing. Devon what do you think?

Hope the pics are good enought. The fullbody s relatively good but the ones with the details - head and tail - are very blurry.

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Yes I agree, looks like a young male.

Any pic's of the female or pair together ?
 
Thought this might help as well, I think I showed pic's of my pair but this site shows several pairs of Male/female at various ages including a nice shot of a pair roughly the same size of yours so it might be a bit more helpful, check out the comparison of sculls from above on this page as well then flip back to your acclimation pic's, I think you'll spot 3M/2F quickly from above after seeing his comparison.

http://www.channamania.de/HTML/Berichte/aurantimaculata.html
 
Devon,

Thank you so much for the imput and link. Extremely helpfull!
Also based on the pics of that webpage, it "has to be" a male.

Unfortunately I do not have any pics of the two or of the "female". I´ll take them soon and post here.

check out the comparison of sculls from above on this page as well then flip back to your acclimation pic's, I think you'll spot 3M/2F quickly from above after seeing his comparison.

http://www.channamania.de/HTML/Berichte/aurantimaculata.html

I´m not seeing that clearly...Maybe you can help if I repost the pics?

(I know I have 1 male and 1 female in this pic but it´s not clear from it - to me...- which is which)
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and here...?
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In the first pic.

Knowing it's a pair, I'd say the one curled on the right is the male, i have very little doubt in that one, left one would then be the female.

The one on the left is more difficult to say. First glance it looks male to me, but if i look closely you can see the body is on a slight angle, this makes the head appear more narrow and "male like". But it has the more proportionate body-head ratio for sure and the dorsal fin on it looks female, <(that of course could also be an angle thing lol but looks heavily striped at the back)

In the second pic the one on the left looks female, Center one male, the one on the top left was guessing female as well but really the bubbles make that one a shot in the dark.

But again its a guess in pic's, i was just curious if my guess was accurate lol. It really needs to be a straight down shot to see the true head shape. even a slight angle can through those guesses off completely.
 
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