Anyone know the rules around bringing fish from Canada into the US

[Oddball]

From what I hear when they ask you at border if your claiming anything you need to show the fish

The Port of Entry must be notified prior to crossing the border.

This can save a lot of frustration and delay in getting clearance ahead of your arrival at the border. They do not like surprises and an agent can summarily rule against permitting your animals crossing the border as a snap judgement instead of being able to check the regulations ahead of your arrival.

 

[davenmandy]

From us to Canada as long as it is ornamental and not restricted you can do it with zero issue, no prior notice needed or forms filled out. You just bring it over, some will ask you to see it some will just ask hown much it cost. As long as it's not commercial purposes or invasive /native it's perfectly fine, done it many times. I'm interested to see if it is different from Canada to us.

 

[dogofwar]

Bringing fish from Canada (or most any country) to the US requires following import procedures per 50 CFR 14: http://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?rgn=div5;node=50:1.0.1.2.8

A USFWS import / export permit is only required for commercial imports (costs $100 and is good for a year).

Unfortunately, "commercial" has a stupid definition (especially in this case) - per 50 CFR 14: Commercial means related to the offering for sale or resale, purchase, trade, barter, or the actual or intended transfer in the pursuit of gain or profit, of any item of wildlife and includes the use of any wildlife article as an exhibit for the purpose of soliciting sales, without regard to quantity or weight. There is a presumption that eight or more similar unused items are for commercial use. The Service or the importer/exporter/owner may rebut this presumption based upon the particular facts and circumstances of each case.

It really comes down to the individual inspector with whom you're dealing.

Either way, for a non-CITES import, you'll need to notify USFWS at least 48 hrs prior to coming, file an "eDec" (and/or bring a paper 3-177 ) and maybe pay live animal inspection fees ($164 if I recall).

Or you can tell the Customs person at the border that you bought some aquarium fish and hope they're cool.

Does Below Water ship to people in the US with Import / Export permits? I think Ted Judy did a shipment from him...

Matt

 

[UnstoppableJayD]

Bringing fish from Canada (or most any country) to the US requires following import procedures per 50 CFR 14: http://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?rgn=div5;node=50:1.0.1.2.8

A USFWS import / export permit is only required for commercial imports (costs $100 and is good for a year).

Unfortunately, "commercial" has a stupid definition (especially in this case) - per 50 CFR 14: Commercial means related to the offering for sale or resale, purchase, trade, barter, or the actual or intended transfer in the pursuit of gain or profit, of any item of wildlife and includes the use of any wildlife article as an exhibit for the purpose of soliciting sales, without regard to quantity or weight. There is a presumption that eight or more similar unused items are for commercial use. The Service or the importer/exporter/owner may rebut this presumption based upon the particular facts and circumstances of each case.

It really comes down to the individual inspector with whom you're dealing.

Either way, for a non-CITES import, you'll need to notify USFWS at least 48 hrs prior to coming, file an "eDec" (and/or bring a paper 3-177 ) and maybe pay live animal inspection fees ($164 if I recall).

Or you can tell the Customs person at the border that you bought some aquarium fish and hope they're cool.

Does Below Water ship to people in the US with Import / Export permits? I think Ted Judy did a shipment from him...

Matt

Thanks Matt- he will ship to us... and Charney has an import license.. the issue is we can not find a flight local to me. the closest flight so far has been to boston which is just as far as driving to the canadian border.

 

[Thekid]

Thanks- stuff from below water

Picking up some boesami?

 

[ICHIBAN TROPICAL FISH]

hi jay , you allow to bring back 6 fish , as long as you must show receive , and buy it for hobby keeper not for commercial , a lot of my hobby friends had done that

 

[dogofwar]

Direct flights between Montreal and Newark for less than $300. Head up for the weekend and bring some fish back...

Matt

Thanks Matt- he will ship to us... and Charney has an import license.. the issue is we can not find a flight local to me. the closest flight so far has been to boston which is just as far as driving to the canadian border.

 

[shookONES]

Thanks Matt- he will ship to us... and Charney has an import license.. the issue is we can not find a flight local to me. the closest flight so far has been to boston which is just as far as driving to the canadian border.

Clam chowda and the aquarium out that way might justify a weekend adventure. Just saying...

 

[Lepisosteus]

Jay if you cannot take the fish I will happily keep them for you Having a look at the January stock list I have a feeling it's the bosemani rays

 

[jsodwi]

If you go up sneak me back some channa