Uaru F. Log

[Beetlebug515]

From what I understand the TDS meters only measure conductivity and can't account for things like tannins, but admittedly I'm not sure what the ideal range for these guys would be. I've always assumed as low as possible is ideal but I've got more to learn. You are playing on the safe side and I think that is the proper course.

I think Charney has some panda who ended up pairing up and killed conspecifics, I'd be worried that the amphs will not be excluded from any similar aggression.

Absolutely trying to stay on the safe side. They cost too much to take any risks lol. I'm sure the amphs would be toast if the pandas paired up. I'm going to keep a close eye on aggression levels for sure. Honestly, if I ended up with a breeding pair of pandas I would have no problem moving the amphs around to accommodate the pair.

 

[Woefulrelic]

It looks like you've covered a lot of your bases. I'm hoping an expert will come in here and tell me I'm wrong so we can all learn from it lol.

 

[Beetlebug515]

Out of curiosity, I paid $100 each for 3 at 4-5 inches. Is this a decent price? Since they are never for sale, I couldn't really find any reliable pricing information.

 

[peathenster]

Most of the TDS in my water comes from the Prime. Tap is about 20 on a good day, and goes to high 40s after I add Prime. I don't think you need to worry about water being too soft for the ferns.

 

[Beetlebug515]

Lol, when I was first looking into keeping soft water fish I was thinking about using some of the purified water I use at work. I looked into conversion calculators for microS (micro Siemens) to tds. As it turns out, the tds of the water I work with is about .16 ppm tds. I'm sure THAT would cross the threshold into too soft.

 

[peathenster]

Lol, when I was first looking into keeping soft water fish I was thinking about using some of the purified water I use at work. I looked into conversion calculators for microS (micro Siemens) to tds. As it turns out, the tds of the water I work with is about .16 ppm tds. I'm sure THAT would cross the threshold into too soft.

Lol I'm not sure if .16ppm is even possible in a tank.

 

[Beetlebug515]

So I think you may have spoken too soon Woefulrelic . I've now got two of the pandas flaring and shaking at each other. It's not constant, but when it happens they turn bright white and their eyes get super red. If you have cursed me with spawning already......

 

[Woefulrelic]

Now all you gotta do it successfully spawn them and we can conclude that your water quality is up to par haha.

 

[Charney]

From what I understand the TDS meters only measure conductivity and can't account for things like tannins, but admittedly I'm not sure what the ideal range for these guys would be. I've always assumed as low as possible is ideal but I've got more to learn. You are playing on the safe side and I think that is the proper course.

I think Charney has some panda who ended up pairing up and killed conspecifics, I'd be worried that the amphs will not be excluded from any similar aggression.

I have what I believe is a pair but haven't vented them yet. Don't want to put them through the stress but really should. They definitely behavior and interact as a pair would. They are in a 8 ft long 180 gallon. they drove two 12 inch plus odeo pikes (they where a pair) out of the tank. I know some other fish did not fair well with them but can't remember who. There is a 12 inch bgk they tolerate but he gets beat up along with the 8 inch red tail barracuda. Soon they will go to their own 90g

I will be honest I do not follow pH, TDS or hardness with their water.

Lastly for anyone getting them, I would just assume they are getting ich and keep at a high temp with salt initially.

 

[Beetlebug515]

Thanks for the advice charney. I'm certainly going to keep a close eye on the aggression levels. On another note, this is how I do water changes now. It is water change Sunday after all.