Stocking Question

[skjl47]

criticise my tanks it's their right to do so.Thats freedom of speech.

Hello; Yep, in the correct format. Here on an open forum if you posted the same picture as being your tank then we others likely will criticize the overstocking. In someone's home or place of business I would hope the tone would more of trying to point out the issues and making suggestions. The OP wrote of "yelling" at the owner and "taking" the fish.. From my reading the Op did not only because he/she does not have a place for the fish. Sounds kind of radical to me.

The animal rights people you speak of are a radical minority. I wouldn't over worry about them.

Hello; Again I suggest you do some research. Around my area they have influenced the animal care laws quite a bit.

By your logic if you see a dog getting beaten to death with a big stick,you would walk away and say nothing incase someone tells you how to keep your dog.

Hello; This is an extreme example and it would be hard to watch someone actually beat a dog to death. I would very likely step in. The overcrowded tank in this thread does not approach that same level of deliberate bad acting in my thinking.
The water looked clean and the fish di not appear to be in immediate distress. Long term problems seem likely without a very rigorous water change and maintainence schedule.

I think an arowana of adult proportions would need 300 g plus.

hello; Thanks for making my point. Your criteria is that the tank needs to be 300 gallons. I have been involved in thread discussions where folks expressed a wide variety of opinion about stocking densities, about minimum tank size, about under gravel filters, about feeding live food and so on. Sounds like you have a tank size criteria which you are willing to try to impose on the rest of us.

 

[Yulli]

Going back to op's original question, I think an arowana of adult proportions would need 300 g plus.

I may have been somewhat unclear, i was wondering what size tank would be needed to house all of these guys together. Would 300 still suffice or would that be for the arowana only?

 

[Yulli]

hello; I get that you do not like what you saw and posted the picture of.

I am curious as to why you imagine you could yell at and then take someone else's property.

Stocking densities has been a hotly debated topic on this and other forums. I have seen as bad and worse in display tanks in restaurants in my area. There is a Chinese place near me with a large tank, say 90 gallons plus. Water is nasty looking. Likely has not been changed in a while. I do not like it but it is not my place to tell someone else how to run their tanks.

Much like you wanting to stop what you see as a bad situation there are radical animal rights groups that do not want you to have pets at all. As bad as these situations are I fear we will become our own enemy if we move to dictate how other run their tanks.

For now I get to run my tanks any way I please. I do not want others to make me follow their particular notions, so I do not try to force my views on others.

I will, if given a chance, try to explain how things can be run better. I do this in a peaceful and non-confronting manner. Mostly I keep my mouth shut and take good cars of my own stuff.

So in actuality I wouldn't steal the fish, however, as you noted it's a shame to see something that should be a large animal at adult hood be limited by the size restriction of the tank someone else imposed on it. That being said I was more so curious as to what size tank would allow these fish to grow to full size and be comfortable territory wise.

 

[Stanzzzz7]

Hello,just thought I should say hello as you said it so many times.
I still feel that keeping an arowana in a tank as wide as a 40 g breeder is extremely cruel.
If you have some knowledge of this species the right thing to do is say something.

 

[Stanzzzz7]

Looking at that photo again I count 10 parrot fish and one arowana.The tank looks about 3 maybe 4 foot at the most.
This is an extreme case of cruelty and the fish are definitely going to suffer.
I feel a tank of 300 gallons should be the bare minimum for all those fish.

 

[Yulli]

Looking at that photo again I count 10 parrot fish and one arowana.The tank looks about 3 maybe 4 foot at the most.
This is an extreme case of cruelty and the fish are definitely going to suffer.
I feel a tank of 300 gallons should be the bare minimum for all those fish.

There's about a dozen or so hidden gold fish also behind the three parrots in the center. Sorry for ****ty quality I was chasing my 3 year old, and getting yelled at by the wife.

 

[Stanzzzz7]

There's about a dozen or so hidden gold fish also behind the three parrots in the center. Sorry for ****ty quality I was chasing my 3 year old, and getting yelled at by the wife.

Oh are they goldfish?I thought they were smaller parrots.

 

[Yulli]

Oh are they goldfish?I thought they were smaller parrots.

They may be I didn't get a good look haha next time I go ill be sure to get better pictures.

 

[Yuki Rihwa]

There is a method stocking aquarium in some cultures around the world called "pickerel stock tank", the tank heavily stock to create a crowded look that almost no space to swim for each fish and the owner love it like that, despite the crowded look these tanks have extreme excellent filtration and animals that live in there are well taken care of by the owner.
*I've seen a 300G tank with another 400G filtration system so the total water volume is 700G, it's bad if you only look at what you seeing in front view and behind the curtain/wall is another different story.

 

[ehh]

A friend of mine has two adult aros in a 6x3 300 gallon. They do an excellent job at making the tank look like a bucket of water. Given enough time and proper care, silver aros get freaken huge.