I think that because humans caused most of the changes to the habitat,then it is up to humans to help the species we threatened survive.
Artificial and modified habitats discusion
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I think that because humans caused most of the changes to the habitat,then it is up to humans to help the species we threatened survive.
U should also check out the thread titled"should lions and elephants roam the Great Plains?",
the biggest problem reintroduced animals faced is actually dimwits who shoot em all,this is what is preventing grey wolves from colonizing the majority of the United States.
I want to believe this would work. I really want to. I feel like you want to do good but have too little real life knowledge.
If we got rid of an open water predator and suddenly got a bit of remorse, why not put in muskies in? They're open water predators and very similar to pike. But you're over here talking about introducing an ambush predator that inhabits a completely different area of the lake.
If your livelihood is endangered and the government won't do much about it then you have to take matters in your own hands. Say a wolf eats a bred heifer on our farm, that heifer was due to be sold for 2k next week. All of the sudden the money you were going to use for the snow tires you were going to buy for your truck or textbooks for your daughter in college is gone. Know anyone who would have trouble justifying the cost of a bullet over a threat that could destroy their livelihood?
And this is the way it has been and always has been. Humans think they're all powerful and can control the world. We freak out when the temperature changes too soon one way or another and jump to math predictions for awnsers about something we just recently started to understand. The earth hasn't always been a flat line with the same temperatures and precipitation, it's always fluctuated. The earth has always provided for humans and every species around us because we've adapted to the changes.
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If we got rid of an open water predator and suddenly got a bit of remorse, why not put in muskies in? They're open water predators and very similar to pike. But you're over here talking about introducing an ambush predator that inhabits a completely different area of the lake.
If your livelihood is endangered and the government won't do much about it then you have to take matters in your own hands. Say a wolf eats a bred heifer on our farm, that heifer was due to be sold for 2k next week. All of the sudden the money you were going to use for the snow tires you were going to buy for your truck or textbooks for your daughter in college is gone. Know anyone who would have trouble justifying the cost of a bullet over a threat that could destroy their livelihood?[/QUOTE]
There r plenty of ways to prevent wolves from eating one of the most common animals on earth,any rancher who can't figure out another way it as idiot who oughta be dragged behind a steer for being so moronic.
As for the chain pikerel reintroduction:in the absence of other esox species they will inhabit open waters and tend to be bigger as adults as well.
If your livelihood is endangered and the government won't do much about it then you have to take matters in your own hands. Say a wolf eats a bred heifer on our farm, that heifer was due to be sold for 2k next week. All of the sudden the money you were going to use for the snow tires you were going to buy for your truck or textbooks for your daughter in college is gone. Know anyone who would have trouble justifying the cost of a bullet over a threat that could destroy their livelihood?[/QUOTE]
There r plenty of ways to prevent wolves from eating one of the most common animals on earth,any rancher who can't figure out another way it as idiot who oughta be dragged behind a steer for being so moronic.
As for the chain pikerel reintroduction:in the absence of other esox species they will inhabit open waters and tend to be bigger as adults as well.
Really? On 2,000 acres you really think a donkey, lama, emu, or whatever guard animal you want to use is going to have a 100% success rate? It isn't feasible to put up high fences and run Hotwires on. The only way to put an end to predation 100% is to end the predator. If something wants to get a calf it'll get the calf. We had a neighbor lose two this year to coyotes or feral dogs. You can bet he shot every coyote and dog that was on his property he saw this summer. He he said that he had thirteen coyotes and two mutts.
You got any scources on the pickerel behavior?
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It's a good thought but an impractical action. The only animals I could see it working for that would be justified by the public is the "cute" harmless animal's. How many people do you know would let lions loose in their back yard where their kids play
Most ranches could easily improve calving by proper land management and breeding properly,this would negate the effects of predation on cows.
And the easy thing to do is seldom the right thing to do.people always have their excuses and whine about how they have to do this or that,but using the same arguments I could say shoot that hypothetical rancher who sells overpriced cattle on the grounds he'll kill a $10000 dollar wolf.
And the easy thing to do is seldom the right thing to do.people always have their excuses and whine about how they have to do this or that,but using the same arguments I could say shoot that hypothetical rancher who sells overpriced cattle on the grounds he'll kill a $10000 dollar wolf.
I'm siding with Thekid here. Most of these sound like a logistical nightmare. Lions and elephants on the Great Plains? Well let's see, we've got to find a way to get them out here, find a way to get them to adapt to the cooler temperatures of the Great Plains compared to the African Savannah, we'll have to introduce prey species as well (considering adding a few lion prides is going to mean that there's going to be more competition for food with native predators), we've got to find a way to support multiple (or even one) elephant herds, and so on. It sounds nice in theory, but after looking into it there's no way it would ever work.
Here something along those lines but it's more for creating new base for corals. In a artist eye tho https://www.google.com/amp/twisteds...-taylor-30-pics/amp/?client=ms-android-att-us
Most of these animals are already readily available ,most (except hippos,rhino and elephant which I believe would be bad ideas) adapt readily to cooler tempatures, as far as habitat we could use the southern Great Plains,after a few years we could have guided animal hunts for excess game,which could stimulate a sluggish economy,creating many more jobs and (if done right) would be better for the people than conventional farming and ranching(for example grains only bring in a few hundred dollars a acre,but if we get people to support these ideas we could easily get those farmers to get 10 times that anually,the farmers would get a cut for participating).
