Unpopular opinion- NLS not impressed...

[RD.]

NF makes a quality food, I have said so for years. I mean Darius pretty much copied Pablos main formula, so yeah. Lol
Jay tends to promote what suits him best, and make things up as he goes along, and not just regarding food. See recent thread on bacteria bugs for more info.

Having said that, I have had mixed reviews by my fish, and NF. Some would eat it with gusto, some not so much. If you go back to post #27 in this thread, it was NF that my big Amph recently turned his nose up. He still refuses to eat the food out of the new bag. Same food, same formula, same exact size, and supposedly exact same ingredients as old bag. But still hammers old food, from old container. Hmmmmm. In this case it has nothing to do with training, and everything to do with a fish intelligent enough to tell the difference. Something has shifted, no question about it. Usually when this happens and there is no trace on the label, well......

 

[spotfin]

A lot of the fish we keep in aquariums (mainly freshwater) are farm raised or captive breed, and have not had access to feed on the truly natural foods as their wild counterparts do.

 

[RD.]

Try to google NLS and every single site is selling it. Negative complaints were cloudy water or fish not touching it thats just from first page im skimming not even want to dig any further when im already validated in my theory.

Your theory of what? lol Seriously, you have been all over the map in this thread and you have yet to make any type of valid point, about anything. I have been feeding fish for a LOT of years, to a LOT of different fish - and not just NLS. In 20 or so odd years of feeding among other foods, NLS in my fishroom, I have personally never seen cloudy water, ever. Buckets & buckets & buckets of food. Not once. Cloudy water can be the result of many things, including overfeeding. All that validates is that operator error is often the cause of many issues in this hobby. Doh!

 

[RD.]

LMAO @ cloudy water. Fricken amateur hour around here lately. Some of the most difficult fish on the planet to keep thriving in captivity. Guess what they are all eating, for years?

Moorish Idol Extravaganza!

Moorish Idol 500 gallon tank, all the Moorish Idols have been in this tank for 4+ years, no losses. Not something that one sees everyday, or for that matter - ever! Just thought that I would share.

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Good luck to the OP, I hope that you find a mix of food that works for you & your fish.

 

[DrownedFishonFire]

Your theory of what? lol Seriously, you have been all over the map in this thread and you have yet to make any type of valid point, about anything. I have been feeding fish for a LOT of years, to a LOT of different fish - and not just NLS. In 20 or so odd years of feeding among other foods, NLS in my fishroom, I have personally never seen cloudy water, ever. Buckets & buckets & buckets of food. Not once. Cloudy water can be the result of many things, including overfeeding. All that validates is that operator error is often the cause of many issues in this hobby. Doh!

If you re-read my comments I do not have time to explain all of my comments in answer to various peoples comments. I am FOR NLS and it never once clouded my water. Fricking re-read what I orginally stated. I have been disussing how many of posters comments does not make sense on their reasoning why its acceptable. Too many people here. I think i am going to bounce out of the thread before I start to tear apart each persons word for word on my cellphone its more harder and link it all with publications. And look at NLS sponsors too. Everyone is in it for the money.

Most of the fish in my tanks are actually wild caught. Im not so sure about the clown loaches though it was not mentioned it was CB.


It would be nice to have few hobbyist that has no afflication with any food brands use different foods with a same species profile and show us the results.

Now bye ?

 

[RD.]

Wild caught at under 2", Chromobotia macracanthus from the Kalimantan district of Borneo - raised on an exclusive diet of NLS. A local buddy still has a few from one of my original groups from many years ago. He now feeds a mix of pellets/wafers. Some NLS, some NF, some from the scraps of what his Asian aro misses, which isn't much. lol







Are there other foods that would gave the same results, most likely. Would I trust them enough to feed them exclusively to this same species. Maybe. Do I find this species to be particularly finicky regarding eating? No - but over many years of keeping clown loaches, including a species only tank that I had set up for a number of years, I also never fed them live foods, or frozen foods, such as blood worms etc, so they learned early on to eat dry food and never gave me any problems. Ditto to the small group of clowns that I currently own. Was that a bad idea? I don't believe so. In the wild they are basically bottom feeders, and in captivity they have never been an issue keeping plump, and healthy, on commercial pellets. The only pics of skinny clown loaches that I see online are either sick fish, or those that were recently collected from the wild, in which case they may be in need of a good deworming.

Again, I have no issue with anyone feeding a wide variety of different brands, and even types of food, such as frozen etc - but sometimes that can lead to fish that become selective. That is one of the risks that comes with that type of feeding - I have experienced this myself, because unlike what many seem to think, I have fed a LOT of different foods over the years - and still do. I have also kept my fair share of wild fish, along with young fish from Bangkok that were raised exclusively on blood worms. But over the years I have also fed certain tanks exclusively, on one brand, and one formula of pellet, for years, at least one tank for close to a decade, and saw no issues with those fish. None. Not in their growth, not in their color, not in their behaviour, and not in their overall health. Go figure.

Below is an example of fish that were raised exclusively on that same brand, for several years.

Africans From the Past - Warning pic heavy!

I shut down my last African tank this week, sent them off to a friends fish room where they will live out their lives in his 270 gallon display tank. I got to thinking about all of the various African cichlids that I have kept over the years and started going though my HD for photos. I thought...

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Oh, and no one pays me for anything. lol I think that if you re-read what I have posted you'll find that most of it was pretty sensible advice. Starting with, it doesn't matter how good a food is, if your fish won't eat it.


Good night Irene.

 

[Zack cloutier]

My Oscar ignores NLS over massivore but my smaller cichlids seem to like it. Or they’ve learned to eat anything as fast as they can before the Oscar eats it lol

It was recommended to me by a lfs shopkeeper bc there’s garlic in the pellets that is supposed to be an immune system boost? I could be wrong, he could be wrong that’s just how it was explain to me.

 

[Finksburg]

I feed Cichlid Gold and NLS to my Midas, as well as tilapia, market shrimp, freeze dried krill, sometimes cucumbers. I’ve never had a problem getting it to eat, but I know they aren’t super picky eaters.

That diet has net about 2.5” in 2 months. Not like some of the growth I’ve seen on here, but I’m happy. (4” to 6.5”)

It wasn’t until I read about NLS on here that I decided to pick up that brand.


I feed pellets around 3 times a day and the days where he’s getting shrimp, krill, or tilapia, he only gets one serving of pellets. 4 days a week though he is only he eating pellets and that’s worked for me so far.

I feel like continuous monitoring of water and doing water changes 2-3x a week has done more for the fish than the diet.