I kept 2 butterfly fish in that actual tank once and they never ventured off the top at all. But I guess I gotta find something else? for the top of the tank
Pea puffer Question
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Bro… 6” is large compared to one small pea puffer. Both your fish would be dead
I thought pea puffers were like 1-1.5inches? Idk the palmas seems so small and a tiny mouth but it’s also in a tank w 7 other bichirs ranging from 9-14inches of lower jaws?
No. Maybe 3/4" at most and thats in length. I think my male may be 1/2-3/4" my female is more like 1/2". They really don't get much more then that.
I never heard of a pea puffer 3” in length. Are you sure youre talking about pea puffer and not another type of puffer?
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Oh wow didn’t realize that I thought 1-1.5 was the average ??? Jesus Christ
A puffer with really anything large and predatory is asking for trouble.
Redeye puffers get to about 1.5 inches but I still wouldn’t try mixing one with a bichir or butterfly. And any puffer is a fin nipper and a risk to the butterfly’s long fins.
The only puffers a bichir couldn’t eat are the same types that could easily kill the poly.
The real issue with loach + puffer I’ve noticed is that loaches like to eat the snails before the puffers do.
Redeye puffers get to about 1.5 inches but I still wouldn’t try mixing one with a bichir or butterfly. And any puffer is a fin nipper and a risk to the butterfly’s long fins.
The only puffers a bichir couldn’t eat are the same types that could easily kill the poly.
Skunk may be a bit big for a pea puffer, but something like a dwarf chain loach may be a safer cohab.I'm not sure how well this would work with pea puffers, but
The real issue with loach + puffer I’ve noticed is that loaches like to eat the snails before the puffers do.
I have kept murder beans in tanks from 5g - 55g and it is genuinely hit or miss on how it goes with groups. All it takes is one of them going psycho and you no longer have a school. My 3 are currently in a heavily planted 29g with cherry shrimp, 2 glass cats, 2 parrot doradids, and some bumblebee cats. I have kept them with rasboras, guppies, danios and other fast movers. Long finned fish don't do well with them long term because they will destroy the fins.
Size wise they rarely exceed 1in. Females will be larger than males but 3/4in is more typical. Males have a brown belly stripe and old man wrinkles near the eyes once mature. Females retain the off yellow belly.
Make sure you dedicate a 5-10g tank just for snail production. Murder beans are known for destroying a snail population in short order even when they aren't hungry. If not caught soon enough the ammonia spike wipes them out.
Plant heavily, and use a large mass of java moss too. They will use it for spawning.
Size wise they rarely exceed 1in. Females will be larger than males but 3/4in is more typical. Males have a brown belly stripe and old man wrinkles near the eyes once mature. Females retain the off yellow belly.
Make sure you dedicate a 5-10g tank just for snail production. Murder beans are known for destroying a snail population in short order even when they aren't hungry. If not caught soon enough the ammonia spike wipes them out.
Plant heavily, and use a large mass of java moss too. They will use it for spawning.
Not saying it couldn't work, but I'm a little skeptical. Dwarf chain loaches are not aggressive, merely slightly boisterous, and only to very placid fish like Corydoras.
My gut feeling is that, being as inquisitive as they are, they're bound to get the puffer's attention at some point by investigating them. Then the puffers would probably attack, and the non-aggressive nature of the chain loaches would likely mean they'd get seriously hurt or even killed.
As for skunk loaches being a bit big, Botia to my understanding do not usually eat small fish, especially not more secretive Botia (like skunk loaches) that, by virtue of their secrecy, are less likely to chase small fish down. That doesn't mean there would be no problems at all with skunk loaches and pea puffers, but size isn't something I'd expect to be a problem.
Going by what Fishguy said, pea puffers may be able to keep pace. But we'd need someone to try the mix to know for sure, though.
