Seamless "pond with window" or has anyone sunken a fish tank inside their pond?

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Oompa Loompa and I are mulling an idea (the dimensions are immaterial):

Imagine, say, a 50' round pond with a 5'-10' round acrylic cylinder lacking a top (so you could climb in) but having a bottom and sunken in the center of the pool, offering a 360 degree view...

... or better yet (to avoid view distortion by a curved window) a rectangle or cube acrylic box, a fishtank really, except you will be sitting inside the tank and the fish will be swimming outside checking you out.

That way, you won't need to seal any windows, just sink the observation tower / well (it won't be easy as it will have a great buoyancy to overcome).

Has anyone done or seen anything like that?
 
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not sure if u could simply drop an acrylic cylinder tank inside a pond without holes in it 2 displace the bouyancy... if i were 2 make it... id use cinders for the whole thing...then, sure u could make another round space for humans inside but y? lol... when u could just put windows on the outside of it just the same and have more room for fish :) .

Maybe some kind of floating/suspended platform could b created that didnt go all the way down to the bottom of the pool/pond.. and attached with an "x" frame at the top of the pool/walkways to the middle.
 
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Thanks Wednesday. That's the idea except for having to get wet and breath through a tube.

... if i were 2 make it... id use cinders for the whole thing...

cinders as in cinder block?

... if i were 2 make it... id use cinders for the whole thing...then, sure u could make another round space for humans inside but y? lol... when u could just put windows on the outside of it just the same and have more room for fish

There may be a few considerable advantages to why do it like that (surely at the expense of some convenience), keeping in mind we are talking about very large ponds:

-- the cost of acrylic - one may get away with using 10x less acrylic
-- visibility - cannot beat 360 degree view
-- object closeness - everyone likes close-ups; plus in say a 25' square tank it can be rather hard to see a fish 25' feet away from the window because even with the slightest turbidity, the sheer viewer-object distance will make it blurry; the proposed setup cuts the distance by half
-- no window-to-liner seams to worry about
-- possible unusual effect like in a shark cage or a crude perception of trading places with a fish

... Maybe some kind of floating/suspended platform could b created that didnt go all the way down to the bottom of the pool/pond.. and attached with an "x" frame at the top of the pool/walkways to the middle.

Crossed my mind too. I will calculate what will be needed to sink the observation well.
 
good point on clarity at 25' thebiggerthebetter thebiggerthebetter ... didnt think of that lol... and yeah, cinders...as in cinder blocks... seems plausible to go that route. im sure an all wood/fiberglass construction would do the same thing tho. Itd b almost a reverse tank if u will, same principles for construction tho. Def. need the "catwalk" above either scenario , kinda cool. Personally id prob just get in the pond/pool at that rate but it would make for pretty cool exhibit at ur sanctuary tho :) . Pretty sure they make "racetrack"/"raceway" tanks in fiberglass already with an open area in the center. just need the catwalk/ladders to the center and some windows.
 
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Nice. Thanks. Very helpful.

W13: ...cinder blocks... seems plausible to go that route. im sure an all wood/fiberglass construction would do the same thing tho. Itd b almost a reverse tank if u will, same principles for construction tho.
TBTB: Yes. Of course. And this will get me all the advantages, except the window... ... ... ... ... ... But no $$$ to throw at it. This is a DIY tank but for a professional application. I am just thinking if at all I can avoid doing the windows because I will have to do them myself. If it was a hobby project, I'd try it. But I need it to be leak proof and leak free and headache free for me for 15-25 years and I am not about to experiment in the spirit of "let me see if I can make it and can make it last", especially never having done a window in pond.

W13: Def. need the "catwalk" above either scenario , kinda cool.
TBTB: That's the simplest but not the only way. A below grade tunnel or an in-tank tunnel can be fathomed.

W13: Personally id prob just get in the pond/pool at that rate but it would make for pretty cool exhibit at ur sanctuary tho :) .
TBTB: Snorkeling with fish is absolutely the best thing. Again, instead of hobbyist, think professional. Imagine the liability and insurance even if in a shark cage (sad to what our world has come to - people do not want / forgot how to take responsibility for their actions and the risk they know they are taking). It's financially prohibitive even for multi-billion dollar Public Aquariums, I think, as I've never seen ANY offer it. Only profies go into their tanks.

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Weight calculation:

A cubic well of 8'x8'x8' has a volume of 512 cu ft = ~14 cu meters = 14,000 kg water displacement.

To reach neutral buoyancy one would need 14,000 kg of, for instance,

-- iron, density ~8,000 kg/cu meter, which translates into 1.75 cu meters of iron = 63 cu ft = 8'x8'x1', that is out of 8' height of the well, 1' would be fully occupied by a solid iron block...

or

-- lead, density 11,340 kg/cu meter, which translates into 1.25 cu meters of lead = 44.5 cu ft = 8'x8'x~8", that is out of 8' height of the well, 8" would be occupied by a solid lead block...

Yea, I'd say this is a bit taxing on the weight cost and realization ... haha

Cutting down the length and width of the well by half to a 4'x4'x8' will cut the amount of the weight by 4 times to 128 cu ft = 3.5 cu meters = 3500 kg water displacement = 3.5 metric tons of weight = 7850 lb.


That sounds ~ impossible.

Suspending the well part way down does not lessen the amount of the weight enough to make a difference and takes away from the concept too much imho.

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The well can be sunken by placing the weight above it, e.g., on pillars, and then cheap material may be used, e.g., sand and rock.
 
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Anyone else has ideas or done it?
 
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