Is this the end of an era

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Fishman Dave

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Well, as I may have eluded to in another post, after over 46 years of keeping fish things are thinning out a lot.
Two years ago my wife and I made the decision to buy a holiday home as neither of us are getting any younger and as retirement approaches we want to start doing more things we love together.
Yes, I love fishkeeping, however for the last 26 years my wife has been a fishkeepers wife, as it’s not a hobby she loves the same way I do.
I hadn’t really thought about it a lot but 18 months ago I was running an outdoor koi pond, two large tanks in our house (one 6x2x2, one 4x2x2) and a fish house 34 ft x8ft, in which I had 18 tanks ranging from multiple 6x2x2 to little 10g tanks, and of course my indoor tropical pond. The pond was built at one end of the insulated fish house shed and it was wood built, standing 4ft tall, it was filled 3 ft deep with viewing window.
I made a decision to cut back the number of tanks as we were spending more weekends away and these were maintenance days! So over the year I have cut my tanks right down to just six including the two indoors. Generally keeping the largest six running.

However, all the monsters were still in the pond, which was built 14 years ago, out of wood. It stands 4ft deep although is filled to 3ft. It’s just over 10 ft long and almost 7 ft wide, with a viewing window in the front. Whilst it’s been running 14 years I have had my share of issues (which you can see in other threads) but an exceptional amount of pleasure from it.
However, I knew the insulation was thinning (the bottom was originally insulated with old carpets and and underlay to stop the cold from the concrete base seeping up, the pond walls were insulated and the shed itself insulated. The pond has never been heated as the room was generally around 72 degrees as all the individual tanks were heated. The pond has run at 80 in summer and 68-70 in winter for all those years.
Until I started removing tanks!
The more tanks I closed down, the colder the shed got. Last year the tank winter temp was 65 and this year generally it’s been around 60 with the occasional low of 58.
Now these are all tropical fish, mostly catfish.
The one loss was unfortunately the jelly cat.

Well, finally after 14 years the pond back wall has rotted at a corner, so it started to push outwards against the shes wall unnoticed. Until 3 weeks ago I noticed a drop in temperature and a slight breeze, and realized that the back wall of the shed had gone and the pond was bowing outwards.
Fortunately the shed was built up against my boundary fence which was built with 4x2 posts. So the, pond had pushed out almost 10” but fortunately the liner still held.
I dropped the water level to 2 ft and had to start the daunting task of either rehoming the fish or figuring out how to fix it.
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Thankfully I have a relative 80 mile away that has built his own shed, and pond, and would love to keep monster catfish.

So I have made the hardest decision and decided to close down the pond and rehome my monsters.
Fish list:
Marmoratus cat 28”
Marmoratus cross 20”
Tiger shovelnose cat 22”
Tiger shovelnose cat 14”
Lima shovelnose cat 20”
Ripsaw cat 26”
Asian redtail cat 20”
Asian redtail cat 18”
Hemibagrus nemurus 12”
Hemibagrus filamentus 14”
Asian upside down cat (male) 9”
Asian upside down cat (female) 16”
Granulosus cat 12”
Clarias cat 12” x2
Pim Albo 12” x 5
Gibbiceps plec 24” x 3
Gibbiceps plec 10” x 2
Synodontis featherfin 9” x 3
Synodontis schall 10”
Six bar distichodus 12”
Hampala barb 12”
Wallagonia micropogon 20”

All we’re living happily together for the past number of years but obviously we’re not getting any smaller so would have needed thinning out soon.

Moving them was a military operation!
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Sorry about the jelly. I'm glad that the rest made it and are going to a good home.

In any case, this is a very impressive array of cats. I especially like the Asian RTC, there is something noble about it that its distant South American cousin doesn't have. It's a pity neither are within the capacity of the average aquarist to care, although I suppose Hemibagrus olyroides is a reasonably-sized consolation prize.
 
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Sorry to hear this, but it's totally understandable. Since moving into my current tiny home and retiring, I have strictly controlled my involvement with the hobby so as not to find myself in this type of situation.

My wife and I were fortunate to do a fair bit of travelling when we were younger, and in today's political and financial climate I find myself wanting more and more just to stay home. But I don't want to become a slave to the fish, which has happened a couple of times throughout my life. It's supposed to be fun.

Are you planning to keep any tanks/fish long term? Or is the idea to completely exit the hobby? I'd find the latter to be very tough. Are you planning on continuing with at least the outdoor koi pond?

And, curiosity begs the question: is it so warm and lovely in the subtropical paradise of West Yorkshire that you feel comfortable moving all those fish now? I would have thought the move would be easier and safer if left until the warmer months?

Good luck with whatever you decide. :)
 
I love the way the knowledge and experience comes through in every one of your posts!

I am planning on keeping tanks going, I just don’t know how many at the moment.
My plans are to deconstruct the pond so I can fix the back wall of the shed. After this, my plans and my wife’s plans may diverge slightly. I am considering building a smaller block built pond where the existing one stands, insulated with kingspan, again with the viewing window and the liner back in, “just in case” I need a hospital tank for koi.

My wife’s black moors recently bred and me being a complete softie couldn’t let them eat all the eggs, so I now have around 60 fancy goldfish fry to go with almost 100 koi growing, so no chance of getting out completely. Everything else I own I plan to keep, but with no plans to keep buying more.

As for the moving of fish at this time of year, this is where my comments on your knowledge and experience come in.
Our house heating was set to 28 with the doors shut in the living room to try to keep their 65 degrees water in all the containers as warm as possible. Then each fish got a small jug of hot water just before they set off to the van. Hired a van and put polystyrene sheets down first to put the containers on, then covered them all in foil blankets and bath towels (it’s amazing how many fish towels you accrue in 46 years!!!!) to try to keep them as warm as possible on the journey.
Certainly not the best time of year to be moving them, but even having dropped the pond level from 3 to 2 ft there was no guarantees how long the liner would last under stretch, and the breeze was coming in good in the split shed corner and cooling both the room but also the return flow from the filter.
I maybe jumped the gun a bit but as soon as I knew I had a relative that had built a 16x8 tropical pond with no fish I knew where I was heading sooner or later.
Whikst I know I will miss them badly (it’s weird walking in with no splashing water at 10000g/hr and only hearing airstones) I have been guilty of setting up naturally so lots of hiding places for catfish (including the gap between two liners) so some of the fish I only got to see once or twice a month, some less (not seen the Asian red tails in the last 12 months) others more (tiger shovelnose always comes to greet me).
As you can imagine, I think the decision has pleased my wife, both from electricity point of view but mainly feed (she used to have to buy mussels and fish to feed them along with sturgeon pellets) but also time. That and I used to do monthly water change where I would drop 400gal and refill with hot water so the house heating would be off for 4-6 hrs🤭that weekend.

Whilst I know I will continue to keep fish (might need something to do in retirement!) in some form, I think I am really gonna miss keeping monsters.
 
Whilst I know I will continue to keep fish (might need something to do in retirement!) in some form, I think I am really gonna miss keeping monsters.
I dunno...small fish can be just as interesting and engaging as large. I'm glad that you are not planning on just quitting entirely.

Going from 30 or 40 tanks to one or two is an adjustment, to be sure, but it's just a matter of degree. But getting rid of your last tank is a much bigger step, and guaranteed to be a shock to the system. 😲

I'm sure you will be keeping tabs on your fish in their new digs; hopefully you can keep us updated on their progress and acclimation. :)
 
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Fishman Dave Fishman Dave : Respect. As others have said before me, your passion shines through with each of your words and photos. This must have been tough but also maybe a relief of sorts because, as you said, there have been other changes in your life proceeding this. And none of us is getting younger. Looks like you had an awesome set up and fantastic memories and experiences to look back to. And you can always visit your old fish and you know they are well taken care of. Wishing you and the missus all the best. Your decades long dedication to the hobby is a true inspiration for all of us.
 
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