180 filtration project

[HULON]

Ok so I am getten help from nutcase on a filtration project for my bass .tryen to make a refugium sump with a little bio also.I am posting a couple pics of the tank and the cabinet where it is going to go .I am going to use a 30 gallon tote and a 29 glass tank for the sump's with a pump rated at 1630 gph at 12ft head height.Not going to get pump until friday.Oh this tank is for a grow out for my bass I will update as i progress!!!Tank is going on the left so i will have twin 180s side by side

 

[Toby_H]

Here is the sump design I suggested...

Will you actually have 12' of head? Or is the pump rated for 1630 gph from 0~12' of head?

If it says it will not experience a loss of flow rate under up to 12' head pressure then it is likely a straight drive pump (as opposed to magnetic driven). Straight drive pumps do not loose flow under head pressure but they do consumer more electricity, experience more wear and tear and generate more heat under head pressure. This is why all (quality) aquarium pumps are magnetic driven pumps.


Also, just so you guys know... Hulon has decided to use Lucky Bamboo as his choice of plants in the refugium. I've been using them for years and can verify that they do consume nitrates, are very hardy and will thrive under low light conditions. Although I would suggest tossing some java moss in with them which will entangle in the roots...

 

[Conner]

Also, just so you guys know... Hulon has decided to use Lucky Bamboo as his choice of plants in the refugium. I've been using them for years and can verify that they do consume nitrates, are very hardy and will thrive under low light conditions. Although I would suggest tossing some java moss in with them which will entangle in the roots...

Any pics of sump/refugiums where you used this combination? I'd be interested to see some.

 

[HULON]

Any pics of sump/refugiums where you used this combination? I'd be interested to see some.

Have not even built yet .but have all the stuff exept pump witch is coming friday.will start doing every thing in about a week .finally have some work and have to work all weekendYAAAAAAAAAAAYhave not had to work a weekend in a year and a half .The work is welcome also nutcase i dont know for sure on head hight I will find out friday.

 

[HULON]

Ok toby here' s the pump it's an osi rated at 1630 gph Max lift 12.5 feet conection 1 inchIts for pond or tanks.

 

[Toby_H]

Gotcha...

So that's 1,630 gph @ zero head... and can lift water up to 12.5' before the head pressure is to much for the pump to move...

I can't quite make out that chart. Most aquariums with sumps run around 4' head pressure. What's your pump rated for (per the chart) at 4' head?

And this is a magnetic driven pump, which is what you want for aquariums...

Looks like it will work wonderfully for ya!

 

[HULON]

looks like at 4 ft its a little under 1500gph

 

[zennzzo]

Under Maximum head height, the impeller is still turning, it's just that the weight of the water is causing it (the water) to no longer move.
These are called "centrifugal" pumps, they have "slip" in the pump casing.

The other style of pump is a "positive displacment" pump. Higher pumping pressures, and the need for a pressure relief valve is needed so you don't stall the impeller. They do not have "slip", in the pump casing.

 

[HULON]

looks like at 4 ft its a little under 1500gph

I hope thats enough water movement ? i can exchange or get another same brand that pushes 2100 gph so probly 5oo 550 more gph What do you think toby?Also toby i picked up some 8th inch clear and blue Acrylic from a job i was working on today is that thick enough for the dividers in the sump?I got 4 ft by 6ft clear and 2ftx6ft blue.

 

[Toby_H]

Keep in mind you must match your return pump to the overflow... there is no use having a larger return pump if your current return pump will max out your intakes/overflows... I would set up what you have and if you find your current pump to be lacking, then upgrade...


That rocks about finding the acrylic sheets/pieces.

It is a good fact to know that silicone will not strongly adhere to acrylic. Thus you would never want to use silicone to glue acrylic pieces together to make an aquarium.

But, since you aer not trying to glue pieces of acrylic together to make an aquarium, you are only siliconing baffles in place in an already securely watertight box... The silicone will hold the acrylic baffles in place just fine in the glass aquarium... although it might not stick to the plastic sidewalls of the rubbermaid container well enough to brace the baffles in it...

There are adhesives that are designed specifically for plastic/acrylic that (chemically) melt the plastic/acrylic allowing them to bond into a single pice when the ahesive "dries". Just make sure you don't put it on so thick it melts a hole in the side of the rubbermaid.

I have used plastic/acrylic adhesives, but never on a rubbermaid tote, so I'm not exactly sure what you should expect...