2 many males?

[rudy]

I am having a tank built 10 feet x 3 feet

Right now I have two pairs of Henlei that I am thinking of putting all, or 3 of them in the tank together.

I am worried about the males fighting so was going to sell on of the males and just place the trio in there.


I am also worried about bioload and want to keep it light in there. Would two males be to much for this tank?

 

[Alex.P]

I don't think the males will fight but you won't get both males breeding with different females. I think rays are like dogs when there are two males in the tank, they will both breed with the same females. Thats why i think Brents pups are sooooooo pretty, because both the male leo and henlei bred with his female leo.
As for the boi load i think you will be fine if you use a huge sump. Although you may find the tank is a bit narrow for a fully grown henlei.
Alex

 

[rudy]

I don't think the males will fight but you won't get both males breeding with different females. I think rays are like dogs when there are two males in the tank, they will both breed with the same females. Thats why i think Brents pups are sooooooo pretty, because both the male leo and henlei bred with his female leo.
As for the boi load i think you will be fine if you use a huge sump. Although you may find the tank is a bit narrow for a fully grown henlei.
Alex

Thanks for the feedback. I am going to sell the one male I think. The male I want to breed the females is more Henlei looking and I like this. The other male is very Leo looking (and still up for debate). I kinda wanted the Trio idea anyway.

 

[T1KARMANN]

i would keep the 2 males in the same tank for a few months it will increase the chances of breeding

i had 1 male and 2 females but as soon as i added a smaller mature male the larger more mature male didnt fight he just thought he better breed now before the other male got their 1st

keep the 2 x males and 2 x female for as long as you can and at the 1st sign of fighting sell the spare male off

 

[anythingfish.com]

I don't think the males will fight but you won't get both males breeding with different females. I think rays are like dogs when there are two males in the tank, they will both breed with the same females. Thats why i think Brents pups are sooooooo pretty, because both the male leo and henlei bred with his female leo.
As for the boi load i think you will be fine if you use a huge sump. Although you may find the tank is a bit narrow for a fully grown henlei.
Alex

Completely disagree, sorry, I have several males in together with other females & my leos breed with leos, & my motoro's breed with motoro's... etc... My male motoro tries to breed with other females, but they will not have it

 

[anythingfish.com]

The more males you have in the tank the better chance of thewm breeding... I have ONE male that I will remove for several months & all my breeding slows, but once I add him back all the other males start showing off & breeding like MAD!!! Some male fight a little, but nothing compared to breeding...

 

[Alex.P]

It's o.k, i don't mind being wrong, but hybridation does occur a lot. For instance this guy had a male and female pearl but the pearl decided to breed with the Leo http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.potamotrygon.de/&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dpotamotrygon%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8
and this guy usually gets hybrids even though he has proper pairs in his tanks. http://www.amazonas-rochen.de/rochen/nachzuchten.html.

But there is a pattern with males mating when other males are added and taken away.

 

[Alex.P]

For the top link go skate news and then look down the list and you will see leo and pearl breeding

 

[anythingfish.com]

It's o.k, i don't mind being wrong, but hybridation does occur a lot. For instance this guy had a male and female pearl but the pearl decided to breed with the Leo http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.potamotrygon.de/&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dpotamotrygon%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8
and this guy usually gets hybrids even though he has proper pairs in his tanks. http://www.amazonas-rochen.de/rochen/nachzuchten.html.

But there is a pattern with males mating when other males are added and taken away.

The funny thing is I have a motoro/henlei mix & my black rays try to mate with her & my motoros also breed with her, & all the other females beat her up if she's pregnant... I have four Leo girls & they will not have any ray but my male & they make him work for it...