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nfored

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I have a couple guppy fry swimming in my display tank, a couple are missing, maybe they have been ate. My question is if they where not ate and have died some where I would likely never find them, what do you all do to avoid the problem.

My other question is when i do a water change with Tap water, can I add prime to the tank first, then ad untreated tap water. Basically remove 25 gallons of water from the tank, add enough prime for 50 gallons, and then fill up the tank. Will this work or will I risk my fish, If you say yes you can have you done it this way.
 
1) the fry probably have been eaten but if not they wint make much impact on water quality depending on tank size.
2) i would of thought adding prime to already safe tank water defeated the object of putting the prime in in the first place but i stand to be corrected.
 
i think it should be fine if you just leave the fry alone. but unless you want tons and tons of them i would separate the male and female cuz some of them will live and breed and breed and breed and breed and breed and breed and breed and... ... ...

i wouldnt add untreated water to the tank even if u added prime to the tank. just to be safe i would treat the water before u add the water
 
theres a good chance the fry were eaten.. or they may be hiding... or maybe they died... give it a few weeks.. there will be more.. guppies breed pretty quick.. if you are worried about them being eaten theres about a thousand different things you can do.. basicly you need to keep the fry and adults apart.. seperate tanks, dividers, more hiding places.. the list goes on and on.. all comes down to what you want to do...

as for the prime... read the bottle... it tells you what to do...
 
chesterthehero;2251480; said:
theres a good chance the fry were eaten.. or they may be hiding... or maybe they died... give it a few weeks.. there will be more.. guppies breed pretty quick.. if you are worried about them being eaten theres about a thousand different things you can do.. basicly you need to keep the fry and adults apart.. seperate tanks, dividers, more hiding places.. the list goes on and on.. all comes down to what you want to do...

as for the prime... read the bottle... it tells you what to do...

well said lol ;)
 
I don't care if they get ate, I was just wondering if they would cause a ammonia spike if they died somewhere and I couldn't find them. Also I have 0 males i bought the fish pregnant I think, although i am sure there are now male fry.

So I should keep adding the prime to the water before, putting it back into the tank? These seems odd to me. The people with 300 gallon tank who do 50% water change, some how find a container that holds a 150 gallons and then treat that and then add the treated water back to the tank.
 
This doesn't say it can't be done only to dose for the whole volume, which is what I said I was doing.

DIRECTIONS: Use 1 capful (5 mL) for each 200 L (50 gallons*) of new water. For smaller doses, please note each cap thread is approx. 1 mL). This removes approximately 0.8 mg/L ammonia, 1.2 mg/L chloramine, or 3.3 mg/L chlorine. May be added to aquarium directly, but better if added to new water first. If adding directly to aquarium, base dose on aquarium volume. Sulfur odor is normal. For exceptionally high chloramine concentrations, a double dose may be used safely. To detoxify nitrite in an emergency, up to 5 times normal dose may be used. If temperature is > 30 °C (86 °F) and chlorine or ammonia levels are low, use a half dose.
 
nfored;2251539; said:
I don't care if they get ate, I was just wondering if they would cause a ammonia spike if they died somewhere and I couldn't find them. Also I have 0 males i bought the fish pregnant I think, although i am sure there are now male fry.

So I should keep adding the prime to the water before, putting it back into the tank? These seems odd to me. The people with 300 gallon tank who do 50% water change, some how find a container that holds a 150 gallons and then treat that and then add the treated water back to the tank.

some have RO machines or do multible trips with a big bucket. some have 50 foot siphon tubes that hook up to the sink and just add the primer to the bucket and fill it up right next to the tank. just dont ever add un primed water to the tank even if u added primer right to the tank. just to be safe
 
puffcrusader696;2251555; said:
some have RO machines or do multible trips with a big bucket. some have 50 foot siphon tubes that hook up to the sink and just add the primer to the bucket and fill it up right next to the tank. just dont ever add un primed water to the tank even if u added primer right to the tank. just to be safe


some have 50 foot siphon tubes that hook up to the sink <----- exactly how does the prime get added between the sink and the tank, unless they are hooking these up to a dosematic dosing pump.

150 gallons is 30 trips with a 5 gallon bucket, I really doubt anyone makes this many trips. anything large then 5 gallons starts to be come a super work out at 8 pounds a gallon.


Luckily I have small baby tanks now, but there has got to be another solution for large tanks.


I am on a crusade to find a dwarf puffer, and its ticking me off I can't find one, I refuse to pay 40 dollars shipping for a 4 dollar fish.
 
nfored;2251732; said:
some have 50 foot siphon tubes that hook up to the sink <----- exactly how does the prime get added between the sink and the tank, unless they are hooking these up to a dosematic dosing pump.

150 gallons is 30 trips with a 5 gallon bucket, I really doubt anyone makes this many trips. anything large then 5 gallons starts to be come a super work out at 8 pounds a gallon.


Luckily I have small baby tanks now, but there has got to be another solution for large tanks.


I am on a crusade to find a dwarf puffer, and its ticking me off I can't find one, I refuse to pay 40 dollars shipping for a 4 dollar fish.

thats where the reverse osmosis machine comes in.
 
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