still have the boxes, im still running them right now. im getting ready to run a sump system in my tank I no longer need them. 200$ and you can have them both+ if you want to start a new tank I cud keep the media all good in aerated buckets before you you get em, if not then that's up to you. they are 11 months and I just changed the sponges and carbon today(bio pieces have never been cleaned) but like I said the fact I still have the seeded media is a plus but if your you don't care about the seeded media I could just clean it up nice 4 you. let me know if interested