20 Gallon planted, shrimp plans

[albirdy]

Hello,

I have a tank with a siamese algae eater (3 inch), 3 otos, and a couple of corydora hastatus, and a male betta (that can move to another tank if his presence will not accomodate my planned shrimp population).

I also have several small feeder fish that are temporarily being housed to be used as feeders for my dempsey and birchir in the coming months.

I was wondering how many shrimp I can house in my tank (ac 50, 25 percent weekly water changes) with this stock (keeping in midn the goldish will be gone, and potentially the betta).

Someone has offered me ten red cherry shrimp along with ten snowball shrimp, totaling twenty. I have questions on what parameters or prerequisites I need to have these species breed successfully.
One thing I don't really want is for these two shrimp to breed, due to hybridization. What can I do to prevent this? If I can't, is it so harmful?

A lot of questions. Pick and choose. I'll repeat them if necessary.

Thank you in advance


*NOTE, these shrimp are not primarily going to be used as feeders. if they breed like crazy and i end up with hundreds, then yes, some will periodically go into the belly of the beast. however, they are being kept because i am falling for inverts over fishies
plus, they'll help with the clean up in the planted .

Thanks!!!

 

[Pyramid_Party]

Ive heard its like 10 adult shrimp per 1 gallon of water. So like a 10 gallon could hold 100 shrimp. The betta and Cories may eat baby shrimp. The betta for sure though. About the 2 species hybridizing, they can but I dont know if these 2 species could with eachother.

I got a 10 gallon with around 50 shrimp, I have several females right now that are getting ready to breed. I keep my temp at 79, water is hard and alkaline. PH is around 7.8 .

 

[Ullopincrate]

Been thinking of starting a 10 gallon shrimp tank. I was thinking of about 50. A 20 I would think you could probably triple or quadruple that. I plan on only using a little sponge filter or I might be braver.

 

[Pyramid_Party]

I suggest a small HOB filter in addition to a sponge filter. It makes the tank healthier, cause the shrimp are sensitive. A small spike in nitrates or ammonia and you will have deaths. Ive had some shrimp drop dead here and there before but not much, my parameters are always good. I also suggest to cover up the filter intake so shrimp dont get sucked in.


If you start out with a good amount of shrimp it gets the breeding kick started sooner. The smaller amount and you could wait months jsut to geta decent amount of them.

 

[Thedaniokeeper]

Add some more cories and otos IMO

 

[albirdy]

Add some more cories and otos IMO

Thanks, might I ask why?


I'm hungry for info

 

[albirdy]

I suggest a small HOB filter in addition to a sponge filter. It makes the tank healthier, cause the shrimp are sensitive. A small spike in nitrates or ammonia and you will have deaths. Ive had some shrimp drop dead here and there before but not much, my parameters are always good. I also suggest to cover up the filter intake so shrimp dont get sucked in.


If you start out with a good amount of shrimp it gets the breeding kick started sooner. The smaller amount and you could wait months jsut to geta decent amount of them.

Thanks for the info, it's really helpful. 10 per gallon. good rule. i have a ac50, so there was a small amount hesitation. what should i use to cover this up? My intake is currently filtered through by an entanglement of java moss (which seems quite effective--but perhaps something more efficient/clean (and more sightly) would work as well--thanks).

how many shrimp would you recommend to kick-start the breeding? I am assuming a weekly water change would be enough, just as I did with my rummy nose just prior to this.

And, I did read an article talking about the fame of these fish in germany due to their ease of breeding (among other striking physical features and hardiness) that they say parallels that of the RCS. The article also noted that there was a danger in hybridization, which gave me two reactions. One: many have argued that hybridization is wrong--which thus made me think of in what ways and why this is such a topic of controversy. Two: Are there negative biological consequences to such cross-breeding? If so, then there must also be the possibility of stronger outcomes of such breeding. and it led me to wonder if such a hybridized population is sustainable.

Exciting, exciting.

I think I will get rid of my betta. Anyone from the East bay area (Northern california) want one? hahaha

 

[msjinkzd]

Snowball and cherry are both neocaridina, they should not be housed together if you are concerned about interbreeding. You can keep roughtly 10 adult shrimp per gallon of water, more if you are dilligent about water changes. Don't forget to consider your current stocking into this amount, this stocking is as an invert only tank. The betta will eat the young shrimp. The cories and sae should be ok. You could easily start with 10 shrimp and have a good population explosion within a month.

 

[davcheng]

There's really no way to accurately keep a certain number of shrimp. They will breed and breed and breed (provided they are not eaten first). Past 60-70 it will be impossible to count how many you actually have. Just throw them in and take some out (to feed, to sell, populate another tank... etc) when you think you have too much.

If you do not care about the color of the shrimp, then put both the snowball and the red cherry shrimp together, otherwise take one or the other, or set up another tank for either the snowballs or the red cherry shrimp.

The shrimp are very easy to take care of, at least in my experience. Just threw about 30-40 into a 10g, fed them with hikari crab food, and later with hikari sinking alage wafers, and they bred like crazy. Changed the water weekly, and had a lot of java moss for them to car around in, and the baby shrimps seemed to love it.

 

[Thedaniokeeper]

Thanks, might I ask why?


I'm hungry for info

Cories like to school, and otos are awesome