35 hex complications

[packer43064]

Well I'm hoping I get this 35 hex with stand and lights for $35, just waiting if she still has it. I really, really want a tank upstairs in my room, the rest are all downstairs but it would be nice to have one in my own room. Nothing big though, the 35 should be a perfect size, plus it's not a long tank and won't take up as much room.I'll have to reseal it but that's no problem, I've resealed the 55 before. Now for the questions.

1. A 35 will be fine upstairs right? I know a dumb question, but IDK I've never had a tank upstairs. As in it won't fall through the floor.

2. It won't have a lid with it, I'm thinking eggcrate will have to do. Anything easier?, it's going to suck either way when I have to cut it to fit the top.

3. What type of filtration should I get? I mean a HOB won't really reach to the bottom since it's a deep tank. I think a canister would make a whirlpool, which wouldn't let the inhabitants get any rest. What do I use for filtration.

4. This is off topic and I might have to make another thread for this question. I own clawed frogs(2 species) and I want to get another. I just love these frogs.I'm think a few ADF(african dwarf frogs) would look nice, maybe with a few middle swimming fish. I know the other clawed frogs go to the top to breathe. It would be quite a distance for a 1.5 inch frog to have to swim all the way up to just breathe, would they be fine though?

 

[Lupin]

1. 35g isn't really too heavy compared to larger setups. Is your floor concrete? If you are still in doubt, better ask an architect that question. I find it very rare for tanks that size to fall through the floor unless the flooring is wood made.

2. You don't have to put a lid on it if your water surface is moving vigorously, no jumpy fish, children handling the tank, cats jumping into the top tanks, etc. If your filter involves splashing on the water surface, then you may need a lid to avoid water contact to the lighting system.

3. For filtration, you could try connecting a powerhead with a hose and connect it to a box containing filter media. It works efficiently. Make sure the powerhead has one output flow only connecting the hose to prevent the flow from being concentrated towards the output system that would only create a whirlpool effect.

4. If you have clawed frogs, I would not be mixing the ADFs with them if I were you. ADFs just don't compete well to the cannibalistic tendencies of the ACFs.

 

[Nic]

Well I'm hoping I get this 35 hex with stand and lights for $35, just waiting if she still has it. I really, really want a tank upstairs in my room, the rest are all downstairs but it would be nice to have one in my own room. Nothing big though, the 35 should be a perfect size, plus it's not a long tank and won't take up as much room.I'll have to reseal it but that's no problem, I've resealed the 55 before. Now for the questions.

1. A 35 will be fine upstairs right? I know a dumb question, but IDK I've never had a tank upstairs. As in it won't fall through the floor.

if it falls through your floor your house is beyond junk....

2. It won't have a lid with it, I'm thinking eggcrate will have to do. Anything easier?, it's going to suck either way when I have to cut it to fit the top.

order a glass top for it from your lfs or get a piece of acyrlic from HD or Lowes and cut to fit..

3. What type of filtration should I get? I mean a HOB won't really reach to the bottom since it's a deep tank. I think a canister would make a whirlpool, which wouldn't let the inhabitants get any rest. What do I use for filtration.

just get a HOB filter... a ac50 would be good..

4. This is off topic and I might have to make another thread for this question. I own clawed frogs(2 species) and I want to get another. I just love these frogs.I'm think a few ADF(african dwarf frogs) would look nice, maybe with a few middle swimming fish. I know the other clawed frogs go to the top to breathe. It would be quite a distance for a 1.5 inch frog to have to swim all the way up to just breathe, would they be fine though?
they have never lasted more than 2 min in any of my tanks so i got no idea...

 

[Ali1]

The man is right. Unfortunately, ADFs usually die from starvation. for the mos part, they are mixed with tropical fish or other species that will gobble up all food before the ADF ever notices it.

I'm thinking of having a single tank for ADFs so they can finally be happy

 

[rnocera]

The ADFs will probably drown in a tank that deep.

And if you use a spray bar on a canister, you'll be fine. Eheims have lower flow & more media than other canisters so they might not make a whirlpool. Just don't overfilter the tank the way people like to.

 

[yogurt_21]

nice to see the above 2 posters are talking from expereince

I had 3 ADF's in my 50hex and it is 25" tall. they had no problems whatsoever getting to the top for air. thay are quick little buggers.

now the compatibility with ACF's might be an issue as Lupin said.

my 50 hex came with a magnum 350 and had no whirlpool effect whatsoever when the canister was in use. you'd need quite the pump to create that effect and many fish like a fair amount of current anyways.

keep the turnover between 6-10 and you wont have an issue.

hob's may be a problem depending on their width as hex tanks have panels that aren't very wide. an AC 50 would fit though. personally i'd recomend an AC50 and a canister as the hob will take care of aeration and provide better biological filtration while the canister will take care of mechanical much better than the hob will.

for my 50 hex when it was running it had a diy submersed canister with fine mesh fitration which sat on the bottom and sucked up all the debris. the pump was a ca 800 which pushes out 420gph at zero head in this case the head was under a foot. so pretty close to that max.

then an AC 20 on the top for aeration and better bilogical filtration. it worked very well and had the best looking water of any of my tanks.

the problem I had with the hexs was look for me. I didn't like how the fish looked when they were spanning 2 panels of glass, it distorted them and made it look like there were more fish in the tank than were actually present.

 

[packer43064]

1. 35g isn't really too heavy compared to larger setups. Is your floor concrete? If you are still in doubt, better ask an architect that question. I find it very rare for tanks that size to fall through the floor unless the flooring is wood made.
it's upstairs. The floor is wood. It's an older house, but I doubt it would fall through. I mean there's beams and stuff to hold up the floors.

2. You don't have to put a lid on it if your water surface is moving vigorously, no jumpy fish, children handling the tank, cats jumping into the top tanks, etc. If your filter involves splashing on the water surface, then you may need a lid to avoid water contact to the lighting system.

3. For filtration, you could try connecting a powerhead with a hose and connect it to a box containing filter media. It works efficiently. Make sure the powerhead has one output flow only connecting the hose to prevent the flow from being concentrated towards the output system that would only create a whirlpool effect.

4. If you have clawed frogs, I would not be mixing the ADFs with them if I were you. ADFs just don't compete well to the cannibalistic tendencies of the ACFs.

Sorry I guess I didn't specify. The ACF's are in another tank and will not be mixed with the ADF's or ever put into the 35. The ACF's always try to eat my finger when I'm cleaning, they could easily gobble up a ADF.

We shall see if my house is junk, wish me luck.lol

The man is right. Unfortunately, ADFs usually die from starvation. for the mos part, they are mixed with tropical fish or other species that will gobble up all food before the ADF ever notices it.

I'm thinking of having a single tank for ADFs so they can finally be happy

I was thinking of a tank just for them, but since they stay near the bottom often and their an inch or so big, the tank would just look boring. We shall see, thanks though.

nice to see the above 2 posters are talking from expereince

I had 3 ADF's in my 50hex and it is 25" tall. they had no problems whatsoever getting to the top for air. thay are quick little buggers.
Thanks, I though they would be fine.

now the compatibility with ACF's might be an issue as Lupin said.

my 50 hex came with a magnum 350 and had no whirlpool effect whatsoever when the canister was in use. you'd need quite the pump to create that effect and many fish like a fair amount of current anyways.

keep the turnover between 6-10 and you wont have an issue.

hob's may be a problem depending on their width as hex tanks have panels that aren't very wide. an AC 50 would fit though. personally i'd recomend an AC50 and a canister as the hob will take care of aeration and provide better biological filtration while the canister will take care of mechanical much better than the hob will.

for my 50 hex when it was running it had a diy submersed canister with fine mesh fitration which sat on the bottom and sucked up all the debris. the pump was a ca 800 which pushes out 420gph at zero head in this case the head was under a foot. so pretty close to that max.

then an AC 20 on the top for aeration and better bilogical filtration. it worked very well and had the best looking water of any of my tanks.

the problem I had with the hexs was look for me. I didn't like how the fish looked when they were spanning 2 panels of glass, it distorted them and made it look like there were more fish in the tank than were actually present.

I don't like the whole looking through two glass panels either but I want a tank upstairs actually in my room and the 35 hex would be something different and interesting but still not a huge tank.

Thanks everyone! Very thorough answers.

 

[packer43064]

I pick the tank up on Saturday! I hope it fits in the Mustang though. Will update later.