40 gallon breeder

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flower1982

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I'm interesting in rays. I don't think I'll be able to get one in the near future or anything but it doesn't hurt to do some research. I was wondering.....could you keep a ray in a 40 gallon breeder? I'm assuming rays don't need tall tanks that they need wider tanks. If rays can be kept in a 40 gallon breeder could you keep two? The ray I have in mind is the Potamotrygon Leopoldi but like I said earlier I won't be getting one for a long time probably. Just doing some research before hand. Thanks.
 
on behalf of everyone on the stingray forum, no.

id say at least like a 125 for temporary acclimating purposes and possibly a few months, but if you want a leopoldi, id definitely refer you to the sticky on this forum called freshwater stingray profiles, will explain basic tank size requirements of different kinds of ray, including leo's.

thanks

nitro
 
Ok I made a mistake on the adult size of the Potamotrygon Leopoldi, I probably got it mixed up with one of the teacup rays instead.
I tried converting the measurement for the tanks but couldn't since there are only 2 measurements instead of 3. I did read over the one sticky about the 12tips for prospective ray owners. I skimmed over the freshwater stringray profiles but I'll make sure to read it over more thoughly though.
 
you could probably do a teacup ray or two in a 120 tank if you had the right dimensions, but id get some input from some of the veterans on here if thats the right choice or not. teacup referring to the rays on the profiles under the sticky that stay under 14 inches in disc diameter.
 
tea cup is a wholesaler name.. for small (baby) rays.. normally cheap brown ones from peru and are mostly reticulated rays... 40 gallon is no where near big enough... and as for a leo they are banned from exportation so that means you will be paying around $1500 for a pup if you can locate a breeder there are a few on this site but the main guy is mike from h20
 
flower1982;2219212; said:
I'm interesting in rays. I don't think I'll be able to get one in the near future or anything but it doesn't hurt to do some research. I was wondering.....could you keep a ray in a 40 gallon breeder? I'm assuming rays don't need tall tanks that they need wider tanks. If rays can be kept in a 40 gallon breeder could you keep two? The ray I have in mind is the Potamotrygon Leopoldi but like I said earlier I won't be getting one for a long time probably. Just doing some research before hand. Thanks.

If you can afford a Potamotrygon Leopoldi then you can afford a lot bigger tank than a 40gal..
Keep doing your research.

nitrofish1;2219222; said:
on behalf of everyone on the stingray forum, no.

id say at least like a 125 for temporary acclimating purposes and possibly a few months, but if you want a leopoldi, id definitely refer you to the sticky on this forum called freshwater stingray profiles, will explain basic tank size requirements of different kinds of ray, including leo's.

thanks

nitro
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flower1982;2219247; said:
Ok I made a mistake on the adult size of the Potamotrygon Leopoldi, I probably got it mixed up with one of the teacup rays instead.
I tried converting the measurement for the tanks but couldn't since there are only 2 measurements instead of 3. I did read over the one sticky about the 12tips for prospective ray owners. I skimmed over the freshwater stringray profiles but I'll make sure to read it over more thoughly though.

a teacup is a retic and for a beginner may not be the best bet, should look into motoro's, and get atleast a tank with a 24" width...for any ray...but keep in mind you will have to upgrade to a larger tank than that after a couple of years.

nitrofish1;2219315; said:
you could probably do a teacup ray or two in a 120 tank if you had the right dimensions, but id get some input from some of the veterans on here if thats the right choice or not. teacup referring to the rays on the profiles under the sticky that stay under 14 inches in disc diameter.


but have a long tail that makes them pretty long, also they are a little tricky to get them to eat unless you have a lot of blackworms handy.;)
 
turkeyboy85;2219350; said:
tea cup is a wholesaler name.. for small (baby) rays.. normally cheap brown ones from peru and are mostly reticulated rays... 40 gallon is no where near big enough... and as for a leo they are banned from exportation so that means you will be paying around $1500 for a pup if you can locate a breeder there are a few on this site but the main guy is mike from h20
turkey, when i referred him to teacup rays, i was more speaking along the lines of reticulata, scobina etc., although i heard that scobina will cost you an arm and a leg as well. and in regards to the long tail part, i believe those are the really long tail ones you are talking about, not sure of species, but they are supposed to be super picky about foods, retics are not.
 
Thanks for the information guys. I appreciate it. lol there is no way i can afford a Potamotrygon Leopoldi if they go for $1,500. I'm not planning on getting a ray anytime soon. Probably won't get one for a few years. I don't have room for anymore tanks then i already have. Just wanted to look into it. As you can tell I don't know much about rays. I think they are beautiful creatures though. I don't usually buy fish on impulse (accept maybe a new molly or platy for my community tank).... I'm not the type of person that buys a fish without having the appropriate tank to put it in. Thanks again for the info.
 
if you do decide to purchase some rays in the near future, the US price for motoro's, which is the most common, easiest, and hardiest type of ray, gets rather large, about 30+ inches disc diameter, first one on the stingray profile sticky, goes for about 200-300 dollars. im told retics should be about 80.
 
everybody hit the nail on the head... retics will still need a larger foot print for life but a 180 will last you a long time... 96"x30"-36"x24" would be needed for life..

also retics are not that bad to feed.... key is getting healthy rays wich sadly most are not cause they are so cheap...
 
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