9 Gold Jardini Comm Challenge

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Jennilyn

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Here is the tank setup:

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/threads/180g-w-40g-breeder-wet-dry.669365/

So it begins... Got my 9x Gold Jardini babies (4-4.25") delivered yesterday. This will be my 2nd comm. My last comm was 20+ years ago. Had 5 Jardini and had to sell it off when I went off to college. So I have the experience and I know how difficult it is. Now that I got the space and money it was time to do it again.

If the comm is successful, I have 15 foot space for a custom wall built-in tank. I'm thinking it'll probably be 15x4x4. But not willing to throw down the money if the comm doesn't work.

I've searched online for more advice and it seems like there's not a lot of info on improving your chance for a successful Jardini comms. So I thought I'd take the lead and do a daily write up so everyone can learn from my mistakes and my successes.

Equipment:

Tank - 180g: I wish I had a smaller tank to start them off in. Maybe a 55g and than move them into the 180g. I'm a big believer that the tight room is beneficial in controlling the sparing matches. They have less room and the close space means everyone is on top of each other.

Godly filtration system - you need to over feed the comm to make sure everyone is happy and you'll need the filtration to handle the waste. What I learned from last time, I hate carrying buckets of water and draining the tank. So this time, I have a auto fill system hooked up to a RO unit than drips into the tank and the sump is drilled to empty the excess water into my basement sump. So with a turn of the faucet I can do a water change. Water condition is everything. I currently on schedule to do about 10% daily WC and every Tuesday I do 25% WC. I highly recommend a system like this especially when running a high flow rate with power heads cause the evaporation I need to replace is daily. I also believe the less you handle the tank, the more stable the comm is.

Dividers: Being able to put up a separator is important. And must be on hand and ready to go if you need to separate the Jardinis. I made 4 out of acrylic sheets. Drilled holes and use these suction cup tank divider holders I found on eBay.

40g Hospital Tank: if a fight breaks out and someone is severally injured and needs to be medicated. Sponge filter is fine.

Power head: very important to stop the fights from escalating. The fish will be forced to separate because of the current. They also expend a lot of their energy swimming thru the current. I got the max spect gyre generator XF 150 and I love it!! I run it at 20% when I'm home and able to monitor the comm. When I'm at work I run it at 50%. and after they eat I run it at 70% to clean up the waste. If I notice some sparing going on, I'll allow only so much before I crank it up and stop the fight all together. If their is a MVP to this comm becoming successful, it's going to be this power head. Love, love, love it!

I'll post more updates soon but here is Day 1 but here are some pics of D day!

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Awesome! Love your setup (saw the thread) planning on plumbing a 40b on my 300 with a wet dry also. Where'd u get your jars btws? I see this working especially with 9 but you're probably better off starting them off in much smaller quarters.. Good luck!
 
Ya I couldn't convince the spouse to get a 55g and than get a 75g than a 125g than a 180g. I was planning on using the dividers to fix the size I want to contain them in but for now I'm gonna try to let them roam the tank and see how it goes. But thanks!
 
Well if you try it in that large tank it will only increase chances of it working. With that size tank and that many jars, I think you have a good chance of pulling it off
 
Day 3 - Everything is looking good. Watched the comm for several hours and they seem to have settled in. The minor sparing matches that happened the 1st day seemed to have stopped for now. Still running the power head at 50% when I'm not home.

I have a feeling a might have overfed them. The littlest guy kept eating and eating. That's prolly the hardest part of the comm is controlling which hasn't eaten and which has eaten enough. Pigs I tell ya!

I really want to get them pellet trained. I'm thinking about taking some Hikari pellet sticks, grind them up and mixing them with the thawed blood worms and refreezing them. Adding more and more pellets into the ratio every batch. I watched some DIY feeds on making Arowana food. Ordered some silicone trays today.

My main concern is my lighting. I'm new to this LED world. Old school here. I have 1x current-USA led plus 48" fixture on the top and running a submersible 60" tanning lamp 48w mounted to the front. The main lighting for the tank is the tanning lamp which I run for 6hrs. The Current doesn't put out enough light for me to see the entirety of the tank. I was playing around with the setting on the Current-USA without the tanning light and I seemed to get more activity in the tank. Like the comm is "happier" with the dimmer lighting settings. They love the thunderstorm setting!

My question is should I get...

1. Another Current-USA Led plus 48"
2. 2x Current-USA 24" to provide lighting for the sides of the aquarium
3. Get a different lighting system cause Current sucks?

My thoughts are running the top LEDs as the main source of lighting and running the tanning lamp only for 4hrs for now.

FYI... I made a custom egg crate hood that blocks a lot of light. Pic below.

Advice?

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Day 5 - everything still looking good. I cut down the amount of feeding down to twice a day. I'm currently feeding 3x cubes of frozen bloodworms per feeding. I solved my problem about controlling how much each Aro eat basically by hand feeding them. They all eat straight from my fingers. Still haven't started pellet training. And gonna get some little crickets and intro another food source to the comm.

I also got 11x tiger barbs in the tank. They were there before the Aro for about 2 weeks to make sure the tank was stable after the cycling process. They are pretty much the clean up crew. Since less feeding schedule, I've noticed they are getting feisty with each other. Reintroduced some flakes back into the tank.
 
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I would break down the pellets and just see how they respond before going through the mixing recipe route. I had a 4" Lei with two 5" BP and 1 4" blue phantom and 1 3" gold nugget. Because of BP eating Hai Feng pellets, the Lei would do the same. When he was big enough I started breaking Hikari sticks and always fed it first. I figured it was then forced to eat that first before all of the other types of food.
 
BTW, my family member also uses the gyre and likes it. He also prefers his ecotech wavemaker.
 
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